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[Bobo57]

"Limited Quantity"

Despite the allocations there was a maximun number of 20a units available.

It was my understanding, and I could be dead wrong, but they allotted 4000 units. Which consisted of a mix of all 3 types, when the 4000 unit number was reached they would turn off the tap.

 

[KungFu392]

Someone on Facebook today had one.

Has anyone confirmed that by ORDERING that one and showing a confirmed accepted order. As you know, more than one member here THOUGHT he had one ordered from a dealer who THOUGHT they had an allocation until they were later told that the order was never picked up by Jeep. I think some of those dealers who are posting on line may have an "allocation" for one that is useless because Jeep has already stopped accepting orders. OR... maybe not because apparently nobody outside of Stellantis actually knows (including the dealers)!

 

[Bobo57]

Has anyone confirmed that by ORDERING that one and showing a confirmed accepted order. As you know, more than one member here THOUGHT he had one ordered from a dealer who THOUGHT they had an allocation until they were later told that the order was never picked up by Jeep. I think some of those dealers who are posting on line may have an "allocation" for one that is useless because Jeep has already stopped accepting orders. OR... maybe not because apparently nobody outside of Stellantis actually knows (including the dealers)!

I received a confirmation email from Jeep that confirmed my order, showed a status queue and listed VIN and order number.

 

[KungFu392]

You

I received a confirmation email from Jeep that confirmed my order, showed a status queue and listed VIN and order number.

And you ordered it from the dealer who posted it on Facebook TODAY? I call B.S.

 

[Bobo57]

You

And you ordered it from the dealer who posted it on Facebook TODAY? I call B.S.

No, I ordered it from a local dealer weeks ago.

 

[KungFu392]

No, I ordered it from a local dealer weeks ago.

Then your reply indicates that you misunderstood my question and to whom it was directed. Those of us who ordered early (at least most of us) have all received confirmation of our orders. The question is whether anyone has proof that any of those dealers posting on Facebook now that they still have allocation aren't full of crap... or just clueless (or likely both).

 

[Bobo57]

Then your reply indicates that you misunderstood my question and to whom it was directed. Those of us who ordered early (at least most of us) have all received confirmation of our orders. The question is whether anyone has proof that any of those dealers posting on Facebook now that they still have allocation aren't full of crap... or just clueless (or likely both).

Yes I clearly misunderstood the question.

 

[Dral97]

Yep, we don’t know for sure, but the math seems to work out that they probably put out more allocations than they plan to produce.

I’m not claiming credit, but I saw a post on the fb group the week they announced (and orders opened) and got it posted up here. Someone else posted here as well, so we would have figured it out, but the lot of us who come here basically daily (or multiple times? I swear I do have a life) had a heads up and posted things as we figured them out.

If you read back on in the thread on Friday the 10th, we were getting our orders in within minutes to a few hours after the banks opened. I‘m not intending to rub it in at all, but the whole process was either hoping/expecting with paying attention for it, luck, or serendipity.

 

[Dral97]

And yes, as far as we know, the dealers that are posting on fb could either THINK they have an allocation that could go through or if they’re shady, could be posting it and then trying to draw people in to get a sale of a non-20A 392 or other wrangler.

 

[Dral97]

Someone posted this on one of the fb groups today.



*shrug* Sounds sus. How do they know it will ship to AEV at the end this month? Not saying I know how 20As will work, but I’ve ordered a few Wranglers as sold orders and while I guess initial order to KZ could happen in a month and a half, I just don’t see it happening or further that someone could predict ahead of time that it would happen in that time frame. The price sounds about legit though. I got SOT on mine and final price was about 96k or so. Add the 20k or whatever that they said AEV was and that hits around 116k.

As a random aside, I think black will look best with the interior red stuff. I always almost push the button on a black auto but can’t do it. Closest I’ve gotten is my midnight blue Bimmer...all the benefits of constantly looking dirty af without being a black auto.

 

[Marksman]

Someone posted this on one of the fb groups today.

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*shrug* Sounds sus. How do they know it will ship to AEV at the end this month? Not saying I know how 20As will work, but I’ve ordered a few Wranglers as sold orders and while I guess initial order to KZ could happen in a month and a half, I just don’t see it happening or further that someone could predict ahead of time that it would happen in that time frame. The price sounds about legit though. I got SOT on mine and final price was about 96k or so. Add the 20k or whatever that they said AEV was and that hits around 116k.

As a random aside, I think black will look best with the interior red stuff. I always almost push the button on a black auto but can’t do it. Closest I’ve gotten is my midnight blue Bimmer...all the benefits of constantly looking dirty af without being a black auto.

That sounds suspicious to me…

I have refrained from chiming in regarding my 20A ordering process primarily because of all the uncertainty around it. Like many of those that ended up getting orders confirmed, I placed my order with a (relatively) local dealer shortly after noon central time on Friday, February 10th.

My order is for a non-AEV 20A 392, and I got a VON immediately, but did not receive a VIN until 3/1. My dealer was great to work with and I spoke directly with the manager several times on the issue. I haven’t seen it mentioned in this discussion (although admittedly, this thread is now so long that I may have missed it), but my initial order included a Mopar security system option that initially was roughly $500, but apparently once the order was placed that option had to be removed.

Then about 2 weeks later (and still no VIN), I was told that I also couldn’t get the Sky One Touch option that I had initially ordered. I spoke with the sales manager directly (who was in repeated contact with Jeep corporate) and told them I that I preferred to have the SOT, but that it wasn’t a dealbreaker, so he submitted an email to a Jeep regional manager on Monday of this week stating I would take it with or without the SOT. The regional Jeep guy told my sales manager that Jeep had reached the maximum number of orders that they could accept with the SOT option (due to parts availability), which I found odd given that my order was placed within 15 minutes of the order banks being open.

Then out of nowhere on 3/1, I got a VIN texted to me by my dealer with a POC that listed both the VON and VIN (not to mention a price tag north of six figures) and a build status of D. Oddly enough, the SOT is on the order. The email from Jeep followed shortly thereafter.

Totally a convoluted process. I have a ‘21, 392 XR, so I wasn’t too worried about getting a 20A, but definitely a not-ready-for-primetime ordering system to say the least. I at least had the good fortune of working with a reputable dealer that was seemingly doing everything they could to get me the vehicle and doing so at MSRP.

 

[Dral97]

That sounds suspicious to me…

I have refrained from chiming in regarding my 20A ordering process primarily because of all the uncertainty around it. Like many of those that ended up getting orders confirmed, I placed my order with a (relatively) local dealer shortly after noon central time on Friday, February 10th.

My order is for a non-AEV 20A 392, and I got a VON immediately, but did not receive a VIN until 3/1. My dealer was great to work with and I spoke directly with the manager several times on the issue. I haven’t seen it mentioned in this discussion (although admittedly, this thread is now so long that I may have missed it), but my initial order included a Mopar security system option that initially was roughly $500, but apparently once the order was placed that option had to be removed.

Then about 2 weeks later (and still no VIN), I was told that I also couldn’t get the Sky One Touch option that I had initially ordered. I spoke with the sales manager directly (who was in repeated contact with Jeep corporate) and told them I that I preferred to have the SOT, but that it wasn’t a dealbreaker, so he submitted an email to a Jeep regional manager on Monday of this week stating I would take it with or without the SOT. The regional Jeep guy told my sales manager that Jeep had reached the maximum number of orders that they could accept with the SOT option (due to parts availability), which I found odd given that my order was placed within 15 minutes of the order banks being open.

Then out of nowhere on 3/1, I got a VIN texted to me by my dealer with a POC that listed both the VON and VIN (not to mention a price tag north of six figures) and a build status of D. The email from Jeep followed shortly thereafter.

Totally a convoluted process. I have a ‘21, 392 XR, so I wasn’t too worried about getting a 20A, but definitely a not-ready-for-primetime ordering system to say the least. I at least had the good fortune of working with a reputable dealer that was seemingly doing everything they could to get me the vehicle and doing so at MSRP.

So did you get a SOT?

Congrats! Getting the VIN is a bit of a relief. I was there sweating over not having one for a few days myself. I assume with a north of 100k price tag you got the half doors too. Good choice imo.

When I was putting my order in, I was looking at the dealer order interface with my salesman and the sales manager. I don’t remember seeing any security option. Interesting.

 

[Marksman]

So did you get a SOT?

Congrats! Getting the VIN is a bit of a relief. I was there sweating over not having one for a few days myself. I assume with a north of 100k price tag you got the half doors too. Good choice imo.

When I was putting my order in, I was looking at the dealer order interface with my salesman and the sales manager. I don’t remember seeing any security option. Interesting.

I meant to include that my order did ultimately have the SOT and edited my previous post to reflect that. Good catch. And yes, that does include the dual door option.

At the time, it was a $525 option called “Mopar Electronic Vehicle Tracking”.

Below is a copy of my initial “Configuration Preview”:

 

[KungFu392]

That sounds suspicious to me…

I have refrained from chiming in regarding my 20A ordering process primarily because of all the uncertainty around it. Like many of those that ended up getting orders confirmed, I placed my order with a (relatively) local dealer shortly after noon central time on Friday, February 10th.

My order is for a non-AEV 20A 392, and I got a VON immediately, but did not receive a VIN until 3/1. My dealer was great to work with and I spoke directly with the manager several times on the issue. I haven’t seen it mentioned in this discussion (although admittedly, this thread is now so long that I may have missed it), but my initial order included a Mopar security system option that initially was roughly $500, but apparently once the order was placed that option had to be removed.

Then about 2 weeks later (and still no VIN), I was told that I also couldn’t get the Sky One Touch option that I had initially ordered. I spoke with the sales manager directly (who was in repeated contact with Jeep corporate) and told them I that I preferred to have the SOT, but that it wasn’t a dealbreaker, so he submitted an email to a Jeep regional manager on Monday of this week stating I would take it with or without the SOT. The regional Jeep guy told my sales manager that Jeep had reached the maximum number of orders that they could accept with the SOT option (due to parts availability), which I found odd given that my order was placed within 15 minutes of the order banks being open.

Then out of nowhere on 3/1, I got a VIN texted to me by my dealer with a POC that listed both the VON and VIN (not to mention a price tag north of six figures) and a build status of D. Oddly enough, the SOT is on the order. The email from Jeep followed shortly thereafter.

Totally a convoluted process. I have a ‘21, 392 XR, so I wasn’t too worried about getting a 20A, but definitely a not-ready-for-primetime ordering system to say the least. I at least had the good fortune of working with a reputable dealer that was seemingly doing everything they could to get me the vehicle and doing so at MSRP.

Sounds like we were in a similar boat. My dealer is literally the closest Stella dealer to my house. I ordered my 22XR from them and reached out when I heard they had finally announced the 20AE to see if he could get one ordered for me. From day one, my dealer was almost completely clueless about the entire process, options, and everything. But, low and behold, he texts me a day or so before orders opened and says his GM told him they had ONE allocation. I immediately told him that I wanted it. He called me to place the order right after noon on Friday and all seemed to go as planned. VON immediately, etc. There was some back and forth because at one point he was told that our order did not "get picked up" by Jeep. Yada Yada Yada... we now have a VIN and it's in D status like others here.

Where are you in MO? I'm in the STL area and for once I am glad I went with a local dealer for something. That said, my guy flat out told me he did not have any allocation for a TRX (which seems odd), but that ended up being very lucky for me because I ended up ordering mine from Granger at $11k off. I'm paying MSRP for the 20A just like I did for my 22XR. I can live with that and just like you, worst case, I just keep my 22. It's great in every way. Just had my first "Jeep Wave" oil change and tire rotation done today. Kind of nice to get the full service treatment for free... even if it's only for the first 3.

Oh... and you're going for the Superman look, I see (Blue and Red). I'd love to see that one in person when you get it!

 

[Dral97]

Sounds like we were in a similar boat. My dealer is literally the closest Stella dealer to my house. I ordered my 22XR from them and reached out when I heard they had finally announced the 20AE to see if he could get one ordered for me. From day one, my dealer was almost completely clueless about the entire process, options, and everything. But, low and behold, he texts me a day or so before orders opened and says his GM told him they had ONE allocation. I immediately told him that I wanted it. He called me to place the order right after noon on Friday and all seemed to go as planned. VON immediately, etc. There was some back and forth because at one point he was told that our order did not "get picked up" by Jeep. Yada Yada Yada... we now have a VIN and it's in D status like others here.

Where are you in MO? I'm in the STL area and for once I am glad I went with a local dealer for something. That said, my guy flat out told me he did not have any allocation for a TRX (which seems odd), but that ended up being very lucky for me because I ended up ordering mine from Granger at $11k off. I'm paying MSRP for the 20A just like I did for my 22XR. I can live with that and just like you, worst case, I just keep my 22. It's great in every way. Just had my first "Jeep Wave" oil change and tire rotation done today. Kind of nice to get the full service treatment for free... even if it's only for the first 3.

Oh... and you're going for the Superman look, I see (Blue and Red). I'd love to see that one in person when you get it!

Are any trackers saying D yet? Just checked and I’m still in C.

And the blue and red can look good. I actually like the huge assed red tail lights against the blue on my bronco. I also (don’t judge me) had a blue tracker back in the day that had red/orange seats.

 

[KungFu392]

Are any trackers saying D yet? Just checked and I’m still in C.

And the blue and red can look good. I actually like the huge assed red tail lights against the blue on my bronco. I also (don’t judge me) had a blue tracker back in the day that had red/orange seats.

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Trust me, I'm way more likely to judge you for owning that P.O.S. Ford, than I would for owning a Tracker. Those little things were cool.

And yeah, nothing wrong with the superman look. I remember a C7 Z06 I saw in that beautiful blue with red seats. It was a bit jolting at first, but quickly gave me a warm and fuzzy feeling.... Kind of like a high proof bourbon.

 

[Marksman]

I’m about 90 miles south of STL.

I’m still not sure how the Hydro and red is going to look… My current 392 is Hydro and I really like the color.

Granite crystal metallic was going to be my go-to color for the 20A, but for reasons that I cannot even begin to explain, GCM is only available on the 20A 4xe, so I decided to stick with blue.

We will see if it clashes with the red interior or not. My dealer told me that if it came in and I didn’t like the color combo that he would refund my deposit and let me walk away from the deal. Not surprising, as I doubt he’ll have any trouble selling it at or above MSRP.

Who knows… I may have the only Hydro blue, 20A-392 out there!

 

[KungFu392]

I’m about 90 miles south of STL.

I’m still not sure how the Hydro and red is going to look… My current 392 is Hydro and I really like the color.

Granite crystal metallic was going to be my go-to color for the 20A, but for reasons that I cannot even begin to explain, GCM is only available on the 20A 4xe, so I decided to stick with blue.

We will see if it clashes with the red or not. My dealer told me that if it came in and I didn’t like the color combo that he would refund my deposit and let me walk away from the deal. Not surprising, as I doubt he’ll have any trouble selling it at or above MSRP.

Who knows… I may have the only Hydro blue, 20A-392 out there!

I doubt yours will be a 1 of 1. The blue really is beautiful. I only own White vehicles (except my 69 Cuda), so I was obligated to order mine in white. If I had chosen a different color, it would have been Sting Grey or Hydro Blue, but honestly, I wasn't sure of either of them with red seats. That said, I think the blue and red will really pop and worst case scenario, just put some diver down covers OR Katzkins (which is what I may do) on and call it a day! Just keep all of the factory stuff in a nice vacuum sealed dress bag and you're golden!

 

[Dral97]

I meant to include that my order did ultimately have the SOT and edited my previous post to reflect that. Good catch. And yes, that does include the dual door option.

At the time, it was a $525 option called “Mopar Electronic Vehicle Tracking”.

Below is a copy of my initial “Configuration Preview”:

The whole SOT thing was odd. As I said, I was looking at the order interface as I was working with my dealer. There was the ‘top’ section of the banks that had the hard top/soft top options, but not the SOT. The next section below that had all the ‘Mopar add on stuff‘ like mats, top liner, etc. Embedded in those was the SOT option.

I think there was a lot of confusion there. Dealers probably looking at the ‘top option’ section of the banks and not seeing SOT and telling people it wasn’t an option. Hind sight’s 20/20 but I wish I would have taken some pics of the banks.

 

[Dral97]

I’m about 90 miles south of STL.

I’m still not sure how the Hydro and red is going to look… My current 392 is Hydro and I really like the color.

Granite crystal metallic was going to be my go-to color for the 20A, but for reasons that I cannot even begin to explain, GCM is only available on the 20A 4xe, so I decided to stick with blue.

We will see if it clashes with the red interior or not. My dealer told me that if it came in and I didn’t like the color combo that he would refund my deposit and let me walk away from the deal. Not surprising, as I doubt he’ll have any trouble selling it at or above MSRP.

Who knows… I may have the only Hydro blue, 20A-392 out there!View attachment 18570

I’m with ya. My 75A was GCM and I loved it. I wanted something different a bit. I regretted not getting Sarge on my 75A since it was exclusive at the time. I ordered it on my 392, but chickened out and switched to Sting.

I thought about it and would have gotten GCM on the 20A if they would have offered it probably, but I already had half doors in Sting from my 392 so I got the same so I can just switch out the cores on my half doors and use them on my 20A.