New Z Automotive things coming

[hazards280]

I sent off my last oil change sample to Blackstone Labs, I'll do it again for the next change to see if there are any increased metallic contaminates after adding the device.

I will do the same.

I collected my sample for Blackstone a couple days before installing the NoLimitz device. We'll see if the sample changes 6 months from now.

 

[Ted392]

There really is a 4l restriction? I can't say that I have ever noticed it. I crawl more than I hit it but I have hit it plenty of times to get up obstacles and I power torque it to get the front end lifted over stuff.

The dash shows that traction control and stability control go off when you put it in 4l.

I don't hit it much, but I'm a fan that anytime you can remove nanny systems, I interested. The idea that they tied the door lock speed 18 mph, with front swaybar disconnect ->reconnect is just silly. It seems this device version may not be part of this, so time will tell.

From Z:

 

[ParadigmDawg]

I don't hit it much, but I'm a fan that anytime you can remove nanny systems, I interested. The idea that they tied the door lock speed 18 mph, with front swaybar disconnect ->reconnect is just silly. It seems this device version may not be part of this, so time will tell.

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I see that they listed that it disables torque limiters and traction control but I am questioning if that isn't already accomplished once in 4L.

I am also all for disabling all nannies and I would rather my driving be in control of everything.

I will hit mine a few extra times tomorrow and see if I notice any limits but I think I would have noticed by now.

I am sure Phil would have noticed in Moab.

 

[RubiconHemi]

There really is a 4l restriction? I can't say that I have ever noticed it. I crawl more than I hit it but I have hit it plenty of times to get up obstacles and I power torque it to get the front end lifted over stuff.

The dash shows that traction control and stability control go off when you put it in 4l.

50MPH. Includes spinning the tires and vehicle barely moving.

 

[ParadigmDawg]

50MPH. Includes spinning the tires and vehicle barely moving.

Not 100% sure what you are saying. I have no interest in being in 4L over 25 miles an hour. Are you saying that even in 4L, the 392 will restrict the wheels from spinning and not allow you throttle through it?

 

[Cali392JL]

Not 100% sure what you are saying. I have no interest in being in 4L over 25 miles an hour. Are you saying that even in 4L, the 392 will restrict the wheels from spinning and not allow you throttle through it?

Yes this is true. 4 lo on snow will not let the engine go over 4000RPM when tires are spinning. I personally have not experienced it, but I have a friend that got his 392 close to stock because he wasn't able to give it more throttle.

 

[RubiconHemi]

Not 100% sure what you are saying. I have no interest in being in 4L over 25 miles an hour. Are you saying that even in 4L, the 392 will restrict the wheels from spinning and not allow you throttle through it?

Yes, your correct. Your wheels will only spin the equivalent of 50mph in 4l. It's a safety feature or nanny feature depending on how you look at it, for the trans case.

 

[Riad]

I don't hit it much, but I'm a fan that anytime you can remove nanny systems, I interested. The idea that they tied the door lock speed 18 mph, with front swaybar disconnect ->reconnect is just silly. It seems this device version may not be part of this, so time will tell.

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So this thing disables traction control full time?

And can you pick and choose which of the features you want to disable or is an all or nothing type deal?

I never even noticed MDS until I read about it on forums - guess I'm one of the lucky ones

 

[Robr651]

So this thing disables traction control full time?

And can you pick and choose which of the features you want to disable or is an all or nothing type deal?

I never even noticed MDS until I read about it on forums - guess I'm one of the lucky ones

Based on the description it’s all or nothing deal. Enable it and it cancels out all of the listed electronic systems or disable it and they’re all restored. It seems pretty easy to enable / disable.

 

[guruman]

It might be worth nothing that I think it might leave the stability control enabled. Twice now I've had it blink the swerving Jeep icon at me. Once spinning the rear wheels, and again today after changing the drag link end and not having the steering wheel centered just yet.

 

[Robr651]

It might be worth nothing that I think it might leave the stability control enabled. Twice now I've had it blink the swerving Jeep icon at me. Once spinning the rear wheels, and again today after changing the drag link end and not having the steering wheel centered just yet.

So it disables the torque management but keeps the stability control on?

 

[guruman]

So it disables the torque management but keeps the stability control on?

That's the only thing that makes sense to me with the way it's acting. I'm not 100% sure that stability control is actually doing anything, but it does blink the dash lamp at me....

 

[Robr651]

That's the only thing that makes sense to me with the way it's acting. I'm not 100% sure that stability control is actually doing anything, but it does blink the dash lamp at me....

That would actually make sense since it’s not one of the systems they mention in the list being turned off.

 

[justjoez]

It just ignores torque requests from the ABS/ESP system. So the system can still apply the brakes independently but it won’t cut engine power.

The initial roll-out has all of the options being enabled or disabled together. I may separate them in future firmware updates if it’s requested. Always open to suggestions for product improvements.

 

[casselmb]

It just ignores torque requests from the ABS/ESP system. So the system can still apply the brakes independently but it won’t cut engine power.

The initial roll-out has all of the options being enabled or disabled together. I may separate them in future firmware updates if it’s requested. Always open to suggestions for product improvements.

Mine is installed. I’ve put a couple hundred miles on it and very happy with the MDS delete. I would like to have the option to leave traction control on in the winter, etc.

 

[ParadigmDawg]

Yes, your correct. Your wheels will only spin the equivalent of 50mph in 4l. It's a safety feature or nanny feature depending on how you look at it, for the trans case.

Okay, I am still not certain that I am missing anything without it but I am curious enough that I may have to try it.

I did "send it" on a couple of rock garden climbs yesterday but I seriously doubt that I would ever need to have over 50 mph of spinning wheel speed. On one climb only 2 out of 10 made it up. 1 was a built Gladiator who crawled it and had to try several lines but finally made it. The other was me when I decided to "send it". It just popped right up the climb. It sure sounded good.

 

[guruman]

I remote started my Jeep with the fob last night to go to town for supper. On our way back I noticed that it was activating the MDS.

Somehow my "No Limitz" device had been disabled. I'm not sure if it's related to the remote start or not, and turning it back on worked.

Just a heads up.

 

[Doc392]

Has anyone assessed the speed limiter yet?!

 

[ParadigmDawg]

Has anyone assessed the speed limiter yet?!

Or more importantly, how about the torque limitation when offroad???

 

[Doc392]

I’ve got T rated sneakers on this beast just waiting for a highway on-ramp