No more XR Package for order…

[Dral97]

This is a pet peeve of mine over at the JLforum…

There is NO SUCH THING as a mid-model Jeep Wrangler refresh. Jeep has ONLY done it once in Wrangler history on the JK and that happened to be 5 years into what ended up a 12 year run (they ran the JK in ‘18 remember.) Jeep has released no plans in its projections for the JL replacement as of yet. You can’t even “pick” a “mid-model” point until you have both ends of the timeline established.

What we MAY see, hopefully is Uconnect5 as Jeep’s roadmap in 2019 was to have it in all vehicles by MY’22, so they are behind on that front… but that’s due to the gluttony of issues that it has, so Jeep has been a little gun shy - they do have an 8.4” variant so it’s not a dash design holding it up.

I think people have it in their head that what happened in the past meant a refresh when, I guess they weren’t too much of a refresh. The switch from sport to family bar on the YJ. The switch from 2002 to 2003 TJs (when the side mirror shape changed). Yah they we’re changes, but not big interior changes or anything. At least I don’t think so. It’s been so long since I had my 97…I don’t remember if the interior was the same as my 04. I believe it pretty much was.

I guess you’re right. Hard to call those refreshes.

 

[Chacalou]

For 2022’s order banks opened October 8th and production started December 16th. That was about 2 months later than average due to the state of things. I don’t see it changing much for this year.

That being said, a build cannot go into a system until it can accept it.... that’s the “order banks are open” day. Options around this are reservation system (which only hold your place in line, they are not a build) similar to what Ford and GM have used. Jeep has not.

So, jeep will build all of its current order up to, and past the next MY order date. They will build as many orders as they can for the current model year up until plant shutdown to switch to next model year. At that point, all confirmed orders from the current year that have not been built, will get moved to the new model year, and built as such. But that is determined by what they CAN build before the shutdown/retool.

So while it is true that some orders of current year models get bumped up, that does not happen until AFTER new year orders open and AFTER they build as many as they can before shutdown.

All manufacturers work this way. I just don’t see Stellantis changing up the game for the XR orders they originally committed to but can’t build. I still see it following the same process.

Thank you so much I really appreciate your helpful reply.
So I should not worry getting the 22 XR o ordered in January then right ?

 

[Chacalou]

For 2022’s order banks opened October 8th and production started December 16th. That was about 2 months later than average due to the state of things. I don’t see it changing much for this year.

That being said, a build cannot go into a system until it can accept it.... that’s the “order banks are open” day. Options around this are reservation system (which only hold your place in line, they are not a build) similar to what Ford and GM have used. Jeep has not.

So, jeep will build all of its current order up to, and past the next MY order date. They will build as many orders as they can for the current model year up until plant shutdown to switch to next model year. At that point, all confirmed orders from the current year that have not been built, will get moved to the new model year, and built as such. But that is determined by what they CAN build before the shutdown/retool.

So while it is true that some orders of current year models get bumped up, that does not happen until AFTER new year orders open and AFTER they build as many as they can before shutdown.

All manufacturers work this way. I just don’t see Stellantis changing up the game for the XR orders they originally committed to but can’t build. I still see it following the same process.

I understand now sorry I had to read it twice
Thank you my brother

 

[YukonCornelius]

Thank you so much I really appreciate your helpful reply.
So I should not worry getting the 22 XR o ordered in January then right ?

So far, looks like your XR should be good. Looks to be those within the 2 week window of XR closure mid February. But these are crazy times. Anything can change.

 

[Chacalou]

So far, looks like your XR should be good. Looks to be those within the 2 week window of XR closure mid February. But these are crazy times. Anything can change.

Thank you
Yep let’s wait and see. I just going to stop order stuff lol

 

[KungFu392]

Man, I’m starting to feel a lot better about placing a back up order on my 392XR with a second dealer back in December! I have the worst luck of anyone I know, but this seems like I’m finally getting a break…especially since the first dealer told me that my order went into D1 this week! Could I possibly have 2 unicorns in my driveway by summer? If so, one will obviously have a for sale sign in it… I can’t afford 2!

 

[Tejas392]

Man, I’m starting to feel a lot better about placing a back up order on my 392XR with a second dealer back in December! I have the worst luck of anyone I know, but this seems like I’m finally getting a break…especially since the first dealer told me that my order went into D1 this week! Could I possibly have 2 unicorns in my driveway by summer? If so, one will obviously have a for sale sign in it… I can’t afford 2!

Looks like your hedge could pay off nicely.

 

[shojeep]

@YukonCornelius I hear you about the full year run on 23’s for the reason they cut 22 short. Makes sense. This should be interesting to see how things play out.

I’m sorta regretting ordering basically fully loaded. Went through two days ago…I’m hoping I don’t go into limbo due to some supply thing…even though it’s non XR. I’d be fine if I could convert to a 23 eventually, but who knows!

One thing for sure: Good luck to anyone trying to get a new or used 392 anything outside of an order for the next who knows how many months...unless ya got extra money to burn.

I got a great deal on mine using the 'Tread Lightly' program. My dealer told me after we signed all the papers that he will never sell a 392 again discounted like mine. He was offered $100k for it when it arrived and I got it out the door for $84k and change. Sticker had the price increase and was $86 and change. If I wanted one today, I would grab whatever was available. Just me and my 2 cents.
SHOJEEP (a VERY HAPPY SHOJEEP)

 

[Fast-n-Furious]

I sincerely hope everyone who’ve placed order on the 22 392 would get them built ASAP with no dramas.

I love my 22 392 XR so much and I don’t think any changes in the 23 MY would trigger my interest. I don’t care about Uconnect 5 nor any cosmetic refresh. The v8 engine and XR package got me and I’m content and I really appreciate they made this happen.

 

[Tejas392]

I sincerely hope everyone who’ve placed order on the 22 392 would get them built ASAP with no dramas.

AMEN

 

[Jgc650i]

I spoke with my dealer rep this afternoon. He says what's even more odd about the phone call I got yesterday is that according to Dealer Connect my 392 went to D1 status sometime over the past 2 days with an ESD of 5/12/22. Still shows it as originally configured with the XR package included. We all know statuses and dates can change so doesn't mean anything until it actually heads down the assembly line, but seems odd it would change status given the call I received. I told them when they called to keep my order as is, even if that means it's delayed and built as a 23MY, so surprised to see the status change.

 

[Rob802]

This is a pet peeve of mine over at the JLforum…

There is NO SUCH THING as a mid-model Jeep Wrangler refresh. Jeep has ONLY done it once in Wrangler history on the JK and that happened to be 5 years into what ended up a 12 year run (they ran the JK in ‘18 remember.) Jeep has released no plans in its projections for the JL replacement as of yet. You can’t even “pick” a “mid-model” point until you have both ends of the timeline established.

What we MAY see, hopefully is Uconnect5 as Jeep’s roadmap in 2019 was to have it in all vehicles by MY’22, so they are behind on that front… but that’s due to the gluttony of issues that it has, so Jeep has been a little gun shy - they do have an 8.4” variant so it’s not a dash design holding it up.

Guess we will just have to wait and see… either way something new is coming…

 

[Brian Joe]

I work at a Jeep dealership in Texas. I checked to see if it was available to order for the 392. As of now it is not. I reached out to one of my manufacture contacts. He stated because they have more volume on the non 392 Rubicon. They are focusing on saving parts for those. Personally I'm hoping it's just a temporary move.

I ordered a 2022 392 XR for myself on Nov. 1st. Still In D status. One definitely needs to be patient right now when ordering vehicles.

I ordered my 2022 392 XR November 15, 2021 and it just arrived today. Yours will be here very soon! Totally worth the wait. I promise!

 

[Electrified]

I spoke with my dealer rep this afternoon. He says what's even more odd about the phone call I got yesterday is that according to Dealer Connect my 392 went to D1 status sometime over the past 2 days with an ESD of 5/12/22. Still shows it as originally configured with the XR package included. We all know statuses and dates can change so doesn't mean anything until it actually heads down the assembly line, but seems odd it would change status given the call I received. I told them when they called to keep my order as is, even if that means it's delayed and built as a 23MY, so surprised to see the status change.

Similar experience except I was given no ESD.

 

[RH392]

I ordered my 2022 392 XR November 15, 2021 and it just arrived today. Yours will be here very soon! Totally worth the wait. I promise!

I ordered my 392XR Nov 17th and it just hit D1 a couple days ago! Can’t wait!

 

[S&S392]

Just came back from SEMA. was a great show. stopped by Jeep 3 or 4 times to rattle their cage a bit
about me waiting for my Jeep. somewhat helpful. With that being said we asked about the XR and the
20th anniversary. The XR will return and from what they say the 20th Anniversary might be available mid to
end of year. what does that do for us that have a 23 and did not have an option for the Anniversary. We are
screwed. we will be able to get the Hood decal and the 20th anniversary grill and whatever else they decide to
add on, but we will end up paying a hefty fee to have things put on by the dealer. i am sure most can be done
at home but will not have the factory backing. for stuff like the on-board air or any other bigger options. Now that being said things can change so please don't take what i am saying as 100% fact. it was funny that we asked why they
dont have a option for a winch on the 392. we were told you can't put one on. that was funny and we had to correct her
and bring her to the big boss of the show. he set her straight. here are a few pictures of the 20th they had at the show.

 

[Dral97]

If they put out a 20A I’m just trading my 23 in for one.

 

[dog]

Am I the only one slightly underwhelmed by the 20th Anniversary concept? Its got a wrap and some knick-knacks on it, but it's basically an XR with 37s, stickers, and red seats?

Not sure what I expected exactly but I'm more bummed that I missed Punk'n Orange than missing the 20th A. Maybe someone can change my mind on this if I missed something...?

 

[Damnright]

Just came back from SEMA.
we asked about the XR.

so clutch to ask. Thank you.

The XR will return

YES. I will not miss it this time!!

Now that being said things can change so please don't take what i am saying as 100% fact.

Nope. Taking it to the bank

 

[HearHear]

Meh. Red seats don’t do it for me. I’ll stick with my ‘21 and 80th anniversary “1941” stripe and black seats. Here she is in Tampa