Kill Switch

[Lee#144]

Funny how nobody seems to care how a "Made in Russia" product got through an embargo legally...

If you had no issues, means that nobody even tried to steal it, so IGLA or no IGLA it didn't matter.

I wonder why we never hear about people who's car was broken in but can prove that it wasn't actually stolen BECAUSE of IGLA.

Dang dude I’m sorry you’ve been wronged by IGLA or Russia but you may want to let it go lol! When I was researching security setups for my vehicle I was hesitant to having to carry around a plug and losing the remote start function. Your results may vary but you seem to have an axe to grind here and I can’t be of any assistance to you.

 

[Casper]

Thanks for your input. Of the three methods, are you able to use only one at a time until you might re-option the system for one of the other methods or do you always have the choice of all three at any time?

Anything about its operation that you wish was better?

Was your installer associated with a car dealership or was with some other type of business, like an automotive stereo installation company? Or was a private individual authorized to install? Compustar, for instance, is directing me to Best Buy and Car Toys for installation and this is throwing me somewhat. Best Buy?

Would any legitimate business install this? This is from IGLA's manual.

 

[Lee#144]

Thanks for your input. Of the three methods, are you able to use only one at a time until you might re-option the system for one of the other methods or do you always have the choice of all three at any time?

Anything about its operation that you wish was better?

Was your installer associated with a car dealership or was with some other type of business, like an automotive stereo installation company? Or was a private individual authorized to install? Compustar, for instance, is directing me to Best Buy and Car Toys for installation and this is throwing me somewhat. Best Buy?

You can use whatever start option you would like. When my wife drives the truck I just have her use the fob as explaining to her my pin would go in one ear and out the other lol. My installer only Installs Igla systems and previously owned a car audio/security business. there is an installer/shop in Houston that does both the IGLA and the Compustar together. As for what I wish was better, up until we added the system to my wife’s 392 I was reluctant to leave my truck here ( swap vehicles) with her as using the key fob isn’t the best option for keeping your vehicle secure. Anyone can swipe a set of keys and with the fob the truck will start and drive without requiring the PIN code so it removes that layer of security.

 

[Casper]

Dang dude I’m sorry you’ve been wronged by IGLA or Russia but you may want to let it go lol! When I was researching security setups for my vehicle I was hesitant to having to carry around a plug and losing the remote start function. Your results may vary but you seem to have an axe to grind here and I can’t be of any assistance to you.

I definitely understand and agree with your requirements. I have no axle to grind with neither IGLA nor Russia, as much as that's hard to believe. Just against snake oil sales men (like those on the TRX forum) selling a product gotten on gray market. See post https://www.jeep392.com/threads/kill-switch.2083/post-54317

 

[SunsetHill]

Would any legitimate business install this? This is from IGLA's manual.

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Oh, you have a manual? Lucky you! My local area installer is not responding to me other than an automated quote and a link to accept their Estimate. Ha, maybe the email is spoofed all the way from Stalingrad! LOL. I ain't clickin' on nuthin' until I see some good ol' steppin' up and standing behind your product in a traceable way!

 

[Casper]

Oh, you have a manual? Lucky you! My local area installer is not responding to me other that an automated quote and a link to accept their Estimate. Ha, maybe the email is spoofed all the way from Stalingrad! LOL.

Their legal "website" is an affiliate in Slovenia. Here's the link for one of their manuals - they have several products: https://www.author-alarm.si/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/IGLA_NEXT_start_260219_ENG-1.pdf

Show me one other professional website that uses WordPress (free software) for their web content management.

 

[@WhiteBronze392]

 

[SunsetHill]

Show me one other professional website that uses WordPress (free software) for their web content management.

Interesting point, methinks. That manual is dated 2019 and references several models including the IGLA 331 while I can't even get info from them about the differences between 200 and 231. which are the only two configurations they advertised. So, I'll venture another email to that local installer and see if a live body responds this time.
Oh wait, I'm still waiting for them to respond to my last email asking if IGLA is impervious to CAN bus injection.
Thanks.

All I want is the truth, just gimme some truth - John Lennon

 

[Lee#144]

I definitely understand and agree with your requirements. I have no axle to grind with neither IGLA nor Russia, as much as that's hard to believe. Just against snake oil sales men (like those on the TRX forum) selling a product gotten on gray market. See post https://www.jeep392.com/threads/kill-switch.2083/post-54317

I’m not sure I’m following your logic here. You‘re calling the product snake oil? How so? Do you not believe that it blocks the start function even with the key? How many Stellantis vehicles have been stolen with an IGLA system installed? How about Ravelco?

 

[Lee#144]

Interesting point, methinks. That manual is dated 2019 and references several models including the IGLA 331 while I can't even get info from them about the differences between 200 and 231. which are the only two configurations they advertised. So, I'll venture another email to that local installer and see if a live body responds this time.
Oh wait, I'm still waiting for them to respond to my last email asking if IGLA is vulnerable to CAN bus injection.
Thanks.

All I want is the truth, just gimme some truth - John Lennon

I’m not too familiar with your local installer but there’s a rep that has been a SME on the TRX board. I can pm you his contact info and he may be able to put you in touch with a better installer but I’m sure he can answer all of your questions.

 

[SunsetHill]

I’m not too familiar with your local installer but there’s a rep that has been a SME on the TRX board. I can pm you his contact info and he may be able to put you in touch with a better installer but I’m sure he can answer all of your questions.

Please do. Thanks.

 

[Casper]

I’m not sure I’m following your logic here. You‘re calling the product snake oil? How so? Do you not believe that it blocks the start function even with the key? How many Stellantis vehicles have been stolen with an IGLA system installed? How about Ravelco?

You know that Stellantis is not the only manufacturer that had this problem, right? Search for Lexus, BMW, and others.

I do wish that car manufacturers come clean on whether or not this is still an actual vulnerability or not. This is not a hardware issue, but poor programing. Like with most software It could be easily patched by a reprogramming by a dealer.

Do you have any proof that IGLA works? I know how Ravelco works, but have not clue about IGLA, except for what its so called installers say. No independent proof. It’s like a diet pill that works because of placebo or actual medical science. On top of that it is … Made in Russia and gotten most likely via gray market, if not plainly illegal.

Did you go to Ravelco’s website? Did you read the testimonials? Now do the same for IGLA.

 

[@WhiteBronze392]

I installed the mobilistics relay today. Not sure how they could get around that other than towing once the rugged ridge locking latches go on.

That said im still looking for igla or ravelco as a second layer and will disable the tazer pin if I go igla with pin. I want security but don’t want to have to press 3 buttons enter 2 pins and plug something in every time I start it I hope one of the combinations is good enough so it’s no more than two steps

I had Ravelco installed a few weeks ago when I was finally able to find an installer after the move to Florida. I removed the Mobilistics relay and Tazer PIN for now as so I’m not playing Jenga to start my jeep and I don’t know how they would get around Ravelco other than towing. I am getting used to the plug in thing. TBH I liked the relay and/ or PIN because I didn’t have to worry about remembering to do anything when I got out only when I got in but I guess Ravelco is more secure as long as I don’t forget to unplug it .

 

[Air’d outSRT]

Would any legitimate business install this? This is from IGLA's manual.

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Yes, legitimate businesses install this. Contrary to what you think you know or believe the parent company is in Russia and its made in Slovenia. Just because someone lives somewhere doesn’t mean they follow the government or what they do, America is far worse government wise than 3/4 of the world, if you don’t see the FJB, lets go brandon and all the jail trump bs then you live under a rock. As for the manuals or spoofed emails ect thats not how it works. The manual is an installer manual not a customer manual, I know, I have hundreds of them. Business emails in the US are just that. We vet and make sure the businesses installing them are legitimate and competent, then comes training, I should know, I am the one setting them all up. If you have questions ask, its far better than making stuff up and spreading prejudice and hate.

 

[Casper]

I had Ravelco installed a few weeks ago when I was finally able to find an installer after the move to Florida. I removed the Mobilistics relay and Tazer PIN for now as so I’m not playing Jenga to start my jeep and I don’t know how they would get around Ravelco other than towing. I am getting used to the plug in thing. TBH I liked the relay and/ or PIN because I didn’t have to worry about remembering to do anything when I got out only when I got in but I guess Ravelco is more secure as long as I don’t forget to unplug it .

One complain I do have about Ravelco is that the damn plug is not notched and I sometimes, especially at night, I struggle inserting it.

Most of the time I’m in “safe” places and don’t bother taking it out, so it’s not a biggy.

 

[Casper]

Yes, legitimate businesses install this. Contrary to what you think you know or believe the parent company is in Russia and its made in Slovenia. Just because someone lives somewhere doesn’t mean they follow the government or what they do, America is far worse government wise than 3/4 of the world, if you don’t see the FJB, lets go brandon and all the jail trump bs then you live under a rock. As for the manuals or spoofed emails ect thats not how it works. The manual is an installer manual not a customer manual, I know, I have hundreds of them. Business emails in the US are just that. We vet and make sure the businesses installing them are legitimate and competent, then comes training, I should know, I am the one setting them all up. If you have questions ask, its far better than making stuff up and spreading prejudice and hate. View attachment 29797

Here comes the TRX mafia ready to slay anyone saying anything negative about IGLA.

There goes the neighborhood. Are you going to get us banned here like you do on the TRX forum?

 

[Casper]

Yes, legitimate businesses install this. Contrary to what you think you know or believe the parent company is in Russia and its made in Slovenia. Just because someone lives somewhere doesn’t mean they follow the government or what they do, America is far worse government wise than 3/4 of the world, if you don’t see the FJB, lets go brandon and all the jail trump bs then you live under a rock. As for the manuals or spoofed emails ect thats not how it works. The manual is an installer manual not a customer manual, I know, I have hundreds of them. Business emails in the US are just that. We vet and make sure the businesses installing them are legitimate and competent, then comes training, I should know, I am the one setting them all up. If you have questions ask, its far better than making stuff up and spreading prejudice and hate. View attachment 29797

Also, if you hate USA so much, please move to Canada … or Russia, since you love selling their products so much.

 

[SunsetHill]

Do you have any proof that IGLA works? I know how Ravelco works, but have not clue about IGLA, except for what its so called installers say. No independent proof.

In other words, are you asking where are the testimonials where a guy says a theft on his IGLA-protected car was attempted but failed? Like a YT video of it, perhaps? You know, I've seen videos of actual theft attempts for Ravelco and Ghost II but none for IGLA (so far).

On top of that it is … Made in Russia and gotten most likely via gray market, if not plainly illegal.

Hmm... Makes me wonder if this would be a loophole for dealers to get around honoring the Magnusen-Moss Act. Gee, has any owner of IGLA come up against this, one way or the another?

EDIT: Uh, oh, I posted this before seeing Post #114. Please don't clobber me. I am really trying to get info and it's not easy. I don't want this thread shut down for escalated sparring.

 

[Air’d outSRT]

You know that Stellantis is not the only manufacturer that had this problem, right? Search for Lexus, BMW, and others.

I do wish that car manufacturers come clean on whether or not this is still an actual vulnerability or not. This is not a hardware issue, but poor programing. Like with most software It could be easily patched by a reprogramming by a dealer.

Do you have any proof that IGLA works? I know how Ravelco works, but have not clue about IGLA, except for what its so called installers say. No independent proof. It’s like a diet pill that works because of placebo or actual medical science. On top of that it is … Made in Russia and gotten most likely via gray market, if not plainly illegal.

Did you go to Ravelco’s website? Did you read the testimonials? Now do the same for IGLA.

IGLA is available for hundreds of makes and models, our new website in the US will have testimonials, real ones not fabricated ones like ravelco. I can remove one, bypass it at the end or simply use a multimeter and 2 premade 7 pin and 8 pin jumpers and do it at the plug. Ravelco is outdated garbage and they are bypassed, removed and stolen all the time. 2 minutes on google will tell you that. You aren’t bypassing or removing IGLA. You also have remote start, anti carjacking, can integrate it into aftermarket alarms and even remotely shut it down with the new feature a few of us have.

 

[Air’d outSRT]

Also, if you hate USA so much, please move to Canada … or Russia, since you love selling their products so much.

Ahh another ignorant comment.