PSC 392 XD Electric Power Steering Pump

[Rusty762]

Been following this thread and it is a shame to have these issues on a $100+K vehicle that is advertised for off-road. I have used 2 great shops for my JL370 Rubicon and Mount Zion is one of them. This is their install of the PSC Adventure kit. It is pricey, but the results show this may be the right kit.

Thats a PSC Hydro assist kit which I have on my 2005 LJ, not the new kit that PSC has just come out with for our 392's. Hydro assist works amazing if you are in the rocks all the time. If you are daily driving not so much and if you like the way the 392 drives now on road its not going to be the same with that kit.

This is their new Adventure kit with a bet driven pump

PSC Adventure™ Steering Kit for 2021-Newer Jeep Wrangler JL Rubicon 392 HEMI

The XD Adventure Kits for the 2021-2024 Jeep Wrangler 392 Rubicon are now available from PSC. These kits come fully assembled with hoses and fittings for an effortless installation. They include all mounting brackets, hardware, and a XD Steering Gear that includes the proprietary PSC High Flow...

www.pscmotorsports.com

This is the kit a bunch of us are interested in but have yet to see any real world testing. This kit does not use Swepco fluid like all their other hydro assist kits and is a modified pump similar to the Apex kit.

PSC Cylinder Assist™ EHPS Steering Kit for 2021-2024 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 392 with 6.75" Axle Stroke and NO Tie Rod Clamp

APPLICATIONS: Wrangler Rubicon 392 RECOMMENDED FLUID: High Performance Electric Power Steering Fluid Kit Includes BOX 1 (SG691R) XDR Cylinder Assist™ Steering Gear Box BOX 2 (PK3) High Flow XD Pump Kit BOX 3 (CAK691R-6.75W) 1-5/8” X 6.75” Stroke Cylinder Assist™ Axle Kit

www.pscmotorsports.com

 

[prodriquez]

I have their full kit on my 392. No complaints and I couldn’t imagine wheeling without it. 40’s + Lockers = No Problem

 

[ameldorf]

Mentioned in another thread. I have the equivalent of the adventure kit they offer: gearbox, belt driven pump, cooler, reservoir.

 

[Rusty762]

Mentioned in another thread. I have the equivalent of the adventure kit they offer: gearbox, belt driven pump, cooler, reservoir.
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Interesting, how is this on the highway compared to the stock setup? Twitchy at all?

 

[ameldorf]

Interesting, how is this on the highway compared to the stock setup? Twitchy at all?

No, I’ve towed with it.

 

[ameldorf]

No, I’ve towed with it.

I suppose to add more clarity. It’s quite a bit easier to turn the steering wheel but doesn’t feel all over the place.

 

[Rusty762]

I suppose to add more clarity. It’s quite a bit easier to turn the steering wheel but doesn’t feel all over the place.

One more thing to add to the list....

 

[bkilby]

I just finished installing PSC's XD Electric pump, cooler and steering gear. No Ram assist but it can be added later if needed. I just finished yesterday so not many miles on it but I can tell that it does indeed perform better at idle. I never had the over heat issue some of you had but I was having a hard time turning the steering at idle. You know, when parking at the mall. Before, I'd get about 3/4 turn of the steering wheel, then have to let the Jeep start rolling to turn further. Now, I go lock to lock while in park with 37" tires at 30ish psi. I still need to drive it more...

 

[Cali392JL]

I just finished installing PSC's XD Electric pump, cooler and steering gear. No Ram assist but it can be added later if needed. I just finished yesterday so not many miles on it but I can tell that it does indeed perform better at idle. I never had the over heat issue some of you had but I was having a hard time turning the steering at idle. You know, when parking at the mall. Before, I'd get about 3/4 turn of the steering wheel, then have to let the Jeep start rolling to turn further. Now, I go lock to lock while in park. I still need to drive it more...

Thank you for being the guinea pig and reporting. Do you have the PSC power steering pump and the box? Keep us posted on how your system works, especially if you're able to air down your tires and try it off-road.

 

[Phil921]

Thank you for being the guinea pig and reporting. Do you have the PSC power steering pump and the box? Keep us posted on how your system works, especially if you're able to air down your tires and try it off-road.

Following...

 

[Rusty762]

Thank you for being the guinea pig and reporting. Do you have the PSC power steering pump and the box? Keep us posted on how your system works, especially if you're able to air down your tires and try it off-road.

Yes please keep us posted if you take it off road. What tire size you are running and how it performs.

 

[bkilby]

Thank you for being the guinea pig and reporting. Do you have the PSC power steering pump and the box? Keep us posted on how your system works, especially if you're able to air down your tires and try it off-road.

I have these two items.

2021-2024 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 392 XD Electric Power Steering Pump Kit

APPLICATIONS: Wrangler Rubicon 392 RECOMMENDED FLUID: High Performance Electric Power Steering Fluid Kit Includes BOX 1 (ESP5200) EHPS XD Power Steering Pump (CK218) High Flow Heat Sink Cooler Kit (FL-PSC8061) High Performance Electric Power Steering Fluid

www.pscmotorsports.com

2021-2024 Jeep JL 392 Rubicon XDR Cylinder Assist™ Steering Gear Box (Special Valving)

Introducing the latest addition to our product lineup, the Jeep JL 392 Rubicon XDR Cylinder Assist™ Steering Gear Box, designed specifically for 2021-2024 models. This high-performance steering gear box, with its 16:1 ratio and a 42mm sector shaft, is encased in durable steel, ensuring...

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Might be a bit before hitting the trails. I work too much. Lol.

 

[bkilby]

Yes please keep us posted if you take it off road. What tire size you are running and how it performs.

I suppose I should have mentioned the 37" tires originally. Sorry about that.

 

[Tank2112]

I have these two items.

2021-2024 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 392 XD Electric Power Steering Pump Kit

APPLICATIONS: Wrangler Rubicon 392 RECOMMENDED FLUID: High Performance Electric Power Steering Fluid Kit Includes BOX 1 (ESP5200) EHPS XD Power Steering Pump (CK218) High Flow Heat Sink Cooler Kit (FL-PSC8061) High Performance Electric Power Steering Fluid

www.pscmotorsports.com

2021-2024 Jeep JL 392 Rubicon XDR Cylinder Assist™ Steering Gear Box (Special Valving)

Introducing the latest addition to our product lineup, the Jeep JL 392 Rubicon XDR Cylinder Assist™ Steering Gear Box, designed specifically for 2021-2024 models. This high-performance steering gear box, with its 16:1 ratio and a 42mm sector shaft, is encased in durable steel, ensuring...

www.pscmotorsports.com

Might be a bit before hitting the trails. I work too much. Lol.

That seems like the optimal setup for a mostly daily driver rig.
Curious of your thoughts after a little time with new system.
Maybe I’d add a fan for extra cooling?

 

[bkilby]

That seems like the optimal setup for a mostly daily driver rig.
Curious of your thoughts after a little time with new system.
Maybe I’d add a fan for extra cooling?

Honestly, I'm not interested in installing a fan. Haven't needed it yet. But if someday I do need it, I'll explore the options then.

 

[Ted392]

I wired in a fan. All my offroading last week, I never got a hot power steering warning. So for me it only solves part of the 392 steering issues.. I'm on 38's. The turning of the steering wheel while not moving sucks with oem pump pressure. One can get into a pucker factor on shelf road switchbacks where you need to do a 3 point turn and you have to move while turning. In my opinion, a steering system upgrade of some sort is necessary with a 392 and bigger tires. As well as a front big brake kit of some sort.

The 392 is still an incredible and quite capable off road vehicle.

 

[Tank2112]

I wired in a fan. All my offroading last week, I never got a hot power steering warning. So for me it only solves part of the 392 steering issues.. I'm on 38's. The turning of the steering wheel while not moving sucks with oem pump pressure. One can get into a pucker factor on shelf road switchbacks where you need to do a 3 point turn and you have to move while turning. In my opinion, a steering system upgrade of some sort is necessary with a 392 and bigger tires. As well as a front big brake kit of some sort.

The 392 is still an incredible and quite capable off road vehicle.

I don’t think factory designed the steering system to accommodate over a 35” tire. Original design was to handle a 33” tire. And remember, we are talking about a K02 35” tire, which mine measures 33.75” at 36psi.

Even going back to the TJ days. I bought a new Rubicon the first year it was offered. Stock tire was 33” Wrangler. When I went to 36” tires, I started having steering issues in the rock trails. So I added a PSC ram assist.
I think we are in same situation with our 392’s.

Time will tell how large of tire the new PSC XD electric pump, along with PSC upgraded steering box, will accommodate. Good news is if it does start to overheat with 38” tires, but will turn them, the addition of a fan may be the solution?
So there is still hope with staying with electric steering pump for the mostly daily driver.

 

[Cali392JL]

I wired in a fan. All my offroading last week, I never got a hot power steering warning. So for me it only solves part of the 392 steering issues.. I'm on 38's. The turning of the steering wheel while not moving sucks with oem pump pressure. One can get into a pucker factor on shelf road switchbacks where you need to do a 3 point turn and you have to move while turning. In my opinion, a steering system upgrade of some sort is necessary with a 392 and bigger tires. As well as a front big brake kit of some sort.

The 392 is still an incredible and quite capable off road vehicle.

I wired in a fan. All my offroading last week, I never got a hot power steering warning. So for me it only solves part of the 392 steering issues.. I'm on 38's. The turning of the steering wheel while not moving sucks with oem pump pressure. One can get into a pucker factor on shelf road switchbacks where you need to do a 3 point turn and you have to move while turning. In my opinion, a steering system upgrade of some sort is necessary with a 392 and bigger tires. As well as a front big brake kit of some sort.

The 392 is still an incredible and quite capable off road vehicle.

The ideal set up for me would be an upgraded Electric power, steering pump, the Apex power, steering pressure, boost system, and hydraulic line cooler and that's it. Perhaps the PSC pump does a better job of cooling the electronics than the stock one, I have also heard that Apex is working on a solution for the overheating of the power steering pump electronic system. I am running 37 inch tires and air them down to about 12 psi and do mostly rock crawling when I take it off road. The current system doesn't perform very well and I think if I could boost the pressure and keep the pump cool I might be OK. If nobody comes out with a pump that runs better, I will probably add the cooling fan. I am hoping to not change out the power steering box or add ahydraulic cylinder for steering. I had that system on my last bronco and didn't like the street manners at all.

 

[Ted392]

The ideal set up for me would be an upgraded Electric power, steering pump, the Apex power, steering pressure, boost system, and hydraulic line cooler and that's it. Perhaps the PSC pump does a better job of cooling the electronics than the stock one, I have also heard that Apex is working on a solution for the overheating of the power steering pump electronic system. I am running 37 inch tires and air them down to about 12 psi and do mostly rock crawling when I take it off road. The current system doesn't perform very well and I think if I could boost the pressure and keep the pump cool I might be OK. If nobody comes out with a pump that runs better, I will probably add the cooling fan. I am hoping to not change out the power steering box or add ahydraulic cylinder for steering. I had that system on my last bronco and didn't like the street manners at all.

This company seems interesting.

Steering Boost Kit for Jeep JL/JT – 40% More Power | Apex

Boost Jeep JL/JT electric steering power by 40%. Includes power steering cooler. Fits 2.0L, 3.6L, 392 & Diesel.

www.apexdesignsusa.com

 

[Tank2112]

The ideal set up for me would be an upgraded Electric power, steering pump, the Apex power, steering pressure, boost system, and hydraulic line cooler and that's it. Perhaps the PSC pump does a better job of cooling the electronics than the stock one, I have also heard that Apex is working on a solution for the overheating of the power steering pump electronic system. I am running 37 inch tires and air them down to about 12 psi and do mostly rock crawling when I take it off road. The current system doesn't perform very well and I think if I could boost the pressure and keep the pump cool I might be OK. If nobody comes out with a pump that runs better, I will probably add the cooling fan. I am hoping to not change out the power steering box or add ahydraulic cylinder for steering. I had that system on my last bronco and didn't like the street manners at all.

I agree, a ram assist definitely changes road manners.
When I tried to pin PSC down about differences between their XD electric pump and stock…. they claim additional cooling fins for pump, but basically the same pump design as stock, and remap to increase pressure at lower rpm’s.
I asked several times about overheating with 37” tires and never got a satisfying answer.
All they said was they are testing two Jeeps… a 392 and a Gladiator. Neither had not overheated and there would soon be a video released on YouTube. Never saw that video, but the one they did release was a hydrolic pump steering system.

So I guess we will have to rely on member here bkilby that just installed the XD electric system, along with upgraded steering box.