No more XR Package for order…

[Uncommon Sense]

Tragedy.

There will likely be another high performance variant that matches 392 v8 performance (or exceeds) with a 6 cylinder. Jeep and Bronco are in a cold war trying to one up each other.

I suspect there will be "XXX" R package of some sort for the 392 (or whatever they call the top of the line Rubicon in future) that will come with 37s to match what Ford is doing with Bronco.

 

[Capsfan]

How many inches is the XR lifted over the regular 392?

I think it is 1.5" taller from the std 392. If you search this forum a few guys took measurements and posted.

 

[stumblinhorse]

I think it is 1.5" taller from the std 392. If you search this forum a few guys took measurements and posted.

That is not correct. They are the same…. So much confusion between XR vs non On a 392.

 

[jchrisbauer13]

That is not correct. They are the same…. So much confusion between XR vs non.

agree with stumblinhorse. the increase in overall height is simply due to larger tire diameter on the XR but the "lift" is the same as standard 392 (as if the standard 392 is "standard" in any way!!)

 

[stumblinhorse]

Let me help clear up some confusion once and for all.
JLU - NO LIFT Standard fenders
JLUR - NO LIFT high clearance fenders
JLURXR - 1.5-2” lift and high clearance fenders and 35” tires and more bump stop = less upward travel.
JLUR 392 - 1.5-2” lift and high clearance fenders
JLURXR 392 - 1.5-2” lift and high clearance fenders and 35” tires and more bump stop = less upward travel.

 

[Chacalou]

How many inches is the XR lifted over the regular 392?

1.5” but please correct me if am wrong.
392 XR (with the one-touch top closed) measures right at 76” at it’s highest point.

 

[Uncommon Sense]

1.5” but please correct me if am wrong.
392 XR (with the one-touch top closed) measures right at 76” at it’s highest point.

The 392 and 392 XR have the same exact lift. The only height difference is from the 35in tires vs 33in tires. The shocks and springs are different between the two though.

 

[YukonCornelius]

Several folks over on the Wrangler and JL forums saying XR on the 392 is closed for 2022 MY and rumor is the 392 won't be back, or is "iffy" for MY 23.... I haven't heard anything other than those rumors. Anyone hearing murmurings among dealers and supply chains?

 

[Uncommon Sense]

Several folks over on the Wrangler and JL forums saying XR on the 392 is closed for 2022 MY and rumor is the 392 won't be back, or is "iffy" for MY 23.... I haven't heard anything other than those rumors. Anyone hearing murmurings among dealers and supply chains?

No more XR package on 392. It is sold out. There is no official word on if 392 will be back for '23 , much less if there will be another XR variant.

I suspect there will be a '23 392 and the XR package will be improved to compete with Bronco Raptor, but no one knows officially.

 

[stumblinhorse]

1.5” but please correct me if am wrong.
392 XR (with the one-touch top closed) measures right at 76” at it’s highest point.

Let me take another second to clear up more confusion.

There is only 2 lengths of control arms offered on a factory Jeep. This might mean nothing to you. But it will as you drive. The lower CA and Upper CA is how your axle attaches to your frame. They are attached behind the front axle and run back to the frame and are attached vice versa on the rear. They are fixed length. So as lift increases the front axle move backwards and back axle moves forward. And If you lift too much without lengthening the control arms your axles can and will touch the fenders/liner. It shortens your wheel base and make your steering more flighty. So from the factory, Jeep only lifts at most 2” for any of the JLs. Otherwise it brings in a world of other changes. And when you add lift to any 392, you really need to add longer control arms, lower and upper. If you don’t, that is when you see people complain about wandering and jumpy and flighty steering. Those Jeeps have very little caster. Just adding LCAs without uppers it will increase caster but lower pinion, which binds your driveshafts.

Secondly, to put 35s on any trim/engine level of jeep, they had to decrease articulation so the taller tires don’t rub when stuffed. So you will see on an XR, more bump stop front and back then a non XR. And you will feel that bump stop off road as the tire stuffs up into the well.

I hope this helps.

 

[clickclickboom]

Let me take another second to clear up more confusion.

There is only 2 lengths of control arms offered on a factory Jeep. This might mean nothing to you. But it will as you drive. The lower CA and Upper CA is how your axle attaches to your frame. They are attached behind the front axle and run back to the frame and are attached vice versa on the rear. They are fixed length. So as lift increases the front axle move backwards and back axle moves forward. And If you lift too much without lengthening the control arms your axles can and will touch the fenders/liner. It shortens your wheel base and make your steering more flighty. So from the factory, Jeep only lifts at most 2” for any of the JLs. Otherwise it brings in a world of other changes. And when you add lift to any 392, you really need to add longer control arms, lower and upper. If you don’t, that is when you see people complain about wandering and jumpy and flighty steering. Those Jeeps have very little caster. Just adding LCAs without uppers it will increase caster but lower pinion, which binds your driveshafts.

Secondly, to put 35s on any trim/engine level of jeep, they had to decrease articulation so the taller tires don’t rub when stuffed. So you will see on an XR, more bump stop front and back then a non XR. And you will feel that bump stop off road as the tire stuffs up into the well.

I hope this helps.

All he asked was if they had the same lift height.

 

[stumblinhorse]

All he asked was if they had the same lift height.

Not exactly, he posted that the XR had 1.5” more lift right after it was posted how much lift there actually is. So I posted a further explanation of why there is not more lift…

 

[Tree]

Several folks over on the Wrangler and JL forums saying XR on the 392 is closed for 2022 MY and rumor is the 392 won't be back, or is "iffy" for MY 23.... I haven't heard anything other than those rumors. Anyone hearing murmurings among dealers and supply chains?

I know someone that is very high up in the corporate office with Jeep.
He told me that the XR option is done, and there won’t be anymore for 2023 as well.
Take this for what it’s worth.

 

[johngalt312]

I know someone that is very high up in the corporate office with Jeep.
He told me that the XR option is done, and there won’t be anymore for 2023 as well.
Take this for what it’s worth.

XR option done for just 392s or for all Wranglers altogether?

 

[valen22us]

I know someone that is very high up in the corporate office with Jeep.
He told me that the XR option is done, and there won’t be anymore for 2023 as well.
Take this for what it’s worth.

I'm glad I have mine in D1

 

[valen22us]

XR option done for just 392s or for all Wranglers altogether?

392 from what I understand.

 

[Marksman]

Let me take another second to clear up more confusion.

There is only 2 lengths of control arms offered on a factory Jeep. This might mean nothing to you. But it will as you drive. The lower CA and Upper CA is how your axle attaches to your frame. They are attached behind the front axle and run back to the frame and are attached vice versa on the rear. They are fixed length. So as lift increases the front axle move backwards and back axle moves forward. And If you lift too much without lengthening the control arms your axles can and will touch the fenders/liner. It shortens your wheel base and make your steering more flighty. So from the factory, Jeep only lifts at most 2” for any of the JLs. Otherwise it brings in a world of other changes. And when you add lift to any 392, you really need to add longer control arms, lower and upper. If you don’t, that is when you see people complain about wandering and jumpy and flighty steering. Those Jeeps have very little caster. Just adding LCAs without uppers it will increase caster but lower pinion, which binds your driveshafts.

Secondly, to put 35s on any trim/engine level of jeep, they had to decrease articulation so the taller tires don’t rub when stuffed. So you will see on an XR, more bump stop front and back then a non XR. And you will feel that bump stop off road as the tire stuffs up into the well.

I hope this helps.

Regardless of the question, good explanation of the physics behind JL suspensions.

 

[392 XR]

Shut down for the rest of the 22 model year. Not decided if there will be a 392 in 23.

Can you site where you received this information please?

 

[Chacalou]

Let me take another second to clear up more confusion.

There is only 2 lengths of control arms offered on a factory Jeep. This might mean nothing to you. But it will as you drive. The lower CA and Upper CA is how your axle attaches to your frame. They are attached behind the front axle and run back to the frame and are attached vice versa on the rear. They are fixed length. So as lift increases the front axle move backwards and back axle moves forward. And If you lift too much without lengthening the control arms your axles can and will touch the fenders/liner. It shortens your wheel base and make your steering more flighty. So from the factory, Jeep only lifts at most 2” for any of the JLs. Otherwise it brings in a world of other changes. And when you add lift to any 392, you really need to add longer control arms, lower and upper. If you don’t, that is when you see people complain about wandering and jumpy and flighty steering. Those Jeeps have very little caster. Just adding LCAs without uppers it will increase caster but lower pinion, which binds your driveshafts.

Secondly, to put 35s on any trim/engine level of jeep, they had to decrease articulation so the taller tires don’t rub when stuffed. So you will see on an XR, more bump stop front and back then a non XR. And you will feel that bump stop off road as the tire stuffs up into the well.

I hope this help

Let me take another second to clear up more confusion.

There is only 2 lengths of control arms offered on a factory Jeep. This might mean nothing to you. But it will as you drive. The lower CA and Upper CA is how your axle attaches to your frame. They are attached behind the front axle and run back to the frame and are attached vice versa on the rear. They are fixed length. So as lift increases the front axle move backwards and back axle moves forward. And If you lift too much without lengthening the control arms your axles can and will touch the fenders/liner. It shortens your wheel base and make your steering more flighty. So from the factory, Jeep only lifts at most 2” for any of the JLs. Otherwise it brings in a world of other changes. And when you add lift to any 392, you really need to add longer control arms, lower and upper. If you don’t, that is when you see people complain about wandering and jumpy and flighty steering. Those Jeeps have very little caster. Just adding LCAs without uppers it will increase caster but lower pinion, which binds your driveshafts.

Secondly, to put 35s on any trim/engine level of jeep, they had to decrease articulation so the taller tires don’t rub when stuffed. So you will see on an XR, more bump stop front and back then a non XR. And you will feel that bump stop off road as the tire stuffs up into the well.

I hope this helps.

original question was “How many inches is the XR lifted over the regular 392?”
simply answer the question

 

[Tree]

XR option done for just 392s or for all Wranglers altogether?

Just the 392 from what I understand.