Just Traded my 2021 Rubicon 392 with 2,650 miles

[CBH]

I've always envisioned that as the most boring, stressful job on earth.

Thanks for reminding me of the stress. There was more: Missile officers fall under the Personnel Reliability Program (PRP) where you were required to report any marital, financial or psychological problems and also report any conduct by other missile officers that would fall under PRP scrutiny. You were expected to get 100% on all monthly Codes and Emergency War Order tests; 90% was failing. If you came close to that 90% you and your crew partner had to report to the squadron commander for “counseling." You were not allowed to take any medication stronger than sudafed; otherwise you were pulled off alert until a medical doctor reinstated you; meanwhile other crew members had to pick up extra shifts to cover for your absence; they weren’t happy and they knew who you were. If you were fortunate enough to moved up to be an evaluator, you only pulled 2 alerts per month (instead of 8), but you also worked an office job 5 days per week. If you got a major error on an evaluation (as an evaluator) you were immediately fired from your job and returned back to one of the squadrons the next day, to pull 8 alerts per month with the rest of the “line swine.” It was a brutal environment professionally under SAC (Strategic Air Command) where the old saying was “To err is human; to forgive divine; neither of which is SAC policy.”

 

[Guest862]

Thanks for your service CBH Godspeed

 

[@JC]

Loyalty -- Fairness -- Integrity

- Loyalty to my community, which extends to community businesses like Boniface-Hiers -- over the last 22 years they have earned my loyalty through myriad transactions.
- Fairness to everyone seeking to purchase a 392 -- if I reveal inside information to someone on this forum I am not being fair to everyone else outside this forum who might be considering a 392 -- a level playing field.
- Integrity -- "Doing the right thing even when nobody is watching.” It served me well during my 30 years, 27 days on active duty -- It’s ingrained in me.

I wasn't going to respond to this insanity but had to point out that it's probably one of the dumbest things I've read on this site and the internet in general lately. Let's go point by point, shall we?

1. Loyalty - nonsense, prices and trade values are not top secret documents that you need to store in your garage. On the contrary, posting these numbers helps everyone to understand the values of their vehicles both in a potential trade and in purchasing. There is no harm incurred by your dealer, nor did they ask you to sign a non-disclosure form. Informed customers are happy customers, only shady dealers fear an informed customer.

2. Fairness - more nonsense, due to the invention of search engines (not sure if you've heard of them or not) posting the full disclosure on your deal would be the height of fairness. Hint: search "jeep 392 traded cocoa florida" in Google and this thread is the first result, your post in jlwranglerforums is the 2nd and the dealership's listing is 3rd. Anyone who would be interested and did a basic search would easily find this thread which would enable them to deal with full knowledge of the value of the vehicle in question.

3. Integrity - Are you off your meds? You're not doing anything in secret here, it's a publicly available website forum for Jeep 392 interested parties and enthusiasts. Everyone is watching, there's a huge number of people that view this site, both members and guests. You're not debating turning over the plan to a nuclear submarine in secret, you've decided to pull a douchebag move and hold your information for no other reason than "because you decided to".

Good day to you sir, the Jeep 392 community is well rid of you.

 

[FccinAZ]

How did a post about trading in a 392 devolve into impugning the character of a retired serviceman? The decay of civility on these forums over the years is palpable and quite unseemly. I for one understand your reasons for privacy and doubt your individual transaction has any bearing or relationship to 99% of the people on this forum.

Thank you for your service and maybe the people on the Rebel forum have more self control.

 

[CBH]

I wasn't going to respond to this insanity but had to point out that it's probably one of the dumbest things I've read on this site and the internet in general lately. Let's go point by point, shall we?

1. Loyalty - nonsense, prices and trade values are not top secret documents that you need to store in your garage. On the contrary, posting these numbers helps everyone to understand the values of their vehicles both in a potential trade and in purchasing. There is no harm incurred by your dealer, nor did they ask you to sign a non-disclosure form. Informed customers are happy customers, only shady dealers fear an informed customer.

2. Fairness - more nonsense, due to the invention of search engines (not sure if you've heard of them or not) posting the full disclosure on your deal would be the height of fairness. Hint: search "jeep 392 traded cocoa florida" in Google and this thread is the first result, your post in jlwranglerforums is the 2nd and the dealership's listing is 3rd. Anyone who would be interested and did a basic search would easily find this thread which would enable them to deal with full knowledge of the value of the vehicle in question.

3. Integrity - Are you off your meds? You're not doing anything in secret here, it's a publicly available website forum for Jeep 392 interested parties and enthusiasts. Everyone is watching, there's a huge number of people that view this site, both members and guests. You're not debating turning over the plan to a nuclear submarine in secret, you've decided to pull a douchebag move and hold your information for no other reason than "because you decided to".

Good day to you sir, the Jeep 392 community is well rid of you.

How did a post about trading in a 392 devolve into impugning the character of a retired serviceman? The decay of civility on these forums over the years is palpable and quite unseemly. I for one understand your reasons for privacy and doubt your individual transaction has any bearing or relationship to 99% of the people on this forum.

Thank you for your service and maybe the people on the Rebel forum have more self control.

No Worries my friend. Everyone lives their lives by a set of values that works for them. I respect @JC for voicing his opinion about mine.

 

[CBH]

I wasn't going to respond to this insanity but had to point out that it's probably one of the dumbest things I've read on this site and the internet in general lately. Let's go point by point, shall we?

1. Loyalty - nonsense, prices and trade values are not top secret documents that you need to store in your garage. On the contrary, posting these numbers helps everyone to understand the values of their vehicles both in a potential trade and in purchasing. There is no harm incurred by your dealer, nor did they ask you to sign a non-disclosure form. Informed customers are happy customers, only shady dealers fear an informed customer.

2. Fairness - more nonsense, due to the invention of search engines (not sure if you've heard of them or not) posting the full disclosure on your deal would be the height of fairness. Hint: search "jeep 392 traded cocoa florida" in Google and this thread is the first result, your post in jlwranglerforums is the 2nd and the dealership's listing is 3rd. Anyone who would be interested and did a basic search would easily find this thread which would enable them to deal with full knowledge of the value of the vehicle in question.

3. Integrity - Are you off your meds? You're not doing anything in secret here, it's a publicly available website forum for Jeep 392 interested parties and enthusiasts. Everyone is watching, there's a huge number of people that view this site, both members and guests. You're not debating turning over the plan to a nuclear submarine in secret, you've decided to pull a douchebag move and hold your information for no other reason than "because you decided to".

Good day to you sir, the Jeep 392 community is well rid of you.

I’m going to miss you guys! It’s been a real learning experience for sure.

 

[CBH]

Thanks for your service CBH Godspeed

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I didn’t understand how important memorials were until I had a bucket full of life experiences in which to reflect. I’m sorry I never had a chance to visit this “haunting” memorial at Camp Bastion, when I was serving (as a government civilian) in Afghanistan.

 

[RugbyRef]

I didn’t understand how important memorials were until I had a bucket full of life experiences in which to reflect. I’m sorry I never had a chance to visit this “haunting” memorial at Camp Bastion, when I was serving (as a government civilian) in Afghanistan.

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I too was in the PRP for my entire career (Sub/Surf Weapons Officer, Nucweps Security Officer, etc.). The Navy was quite like the Air Force with regards to keeping your nose clean while in the PRP and you had better know your job during Nuclear Technical Proficiency Inspections (NTPI's). Anyway...good luck to you @CBH! You're going to be missed.

 

[ValB]

Well I guess the good thing is, you can't miss something you never drove that much! Injoy the truck my buddy just got one and loves it.

 

[Hayabusa]

Thanks. I was fortunate to have had great mentors throughout my career, which helped me mentor the people I was fortunate enough to lead as I moved up in rank.

What kind of mods did you do to your Rebel?

Just basics on the Rebel...Borla exhaust, intake, Fuel Beasts, and addressing the undersized tires...the thing that may bug you a bit. Spray in bedliner and Bakflip trifold hard tonneau out back.

You'll appreciate the additional storage compared to the Wrangler, the giant IPad of a screen if you're into that sort of thing (I loved it), interior is well executed. Although not a 392, the engine is strong and you won't be lacking for power. Enjoy!

 

[CBH]

Just basics on the Rebel...Borla exhaust, intake, Fuel Beasts, and addressing the undersized tires...the thing that may bug you a bit. Spray in bedliner and Bakflip trifold hard tonneau out back.

You'll appreciate the additional storage compared to the Wrangler, the giant IPad of a screen if you're into that sort of thing (I loved it), interior is well executed. Although not a 392, the engine is strong and you won't be lacking for power. Enjoy!

You know, the tires in this picture do look a little anemic. Darn....here we go again

 

[StuM]

In a perfect world with more money and more space I would definitely consider the TRX. BTW: How is the TRX as a daily driver? Does the added width (8” wider than a standard 1500?) present challenges?

I came out of two Raptors, so the width of the TRX isn’t really unusual to me. It does does drive big, so you just have to be mindful. Far better than my Raptors in all respects…..except mpg!

 

[CBH]

I came out of two Raptors, so the width of the TRX isn’t really unusual to me. It does does drive big, so you just have to be mindful. Far better than my Raptors in all respects…..except mpg!

The TRX, IMO, is the most awesome pickup on the market! When I see one I can’t help but stare it, trying to soak in all of its “bold presence.” I will be sure not to park my Rebel next to a TRX so I don’t panic with "pickup envy."

 

[StuM]

The TRX, IMO, is the most awesome pickup on the market! When I see one I can’t help but stare it, trying to soak in all of its “bold presence.” I will be sure not to park my Rebel next to a TRX so I don’t panic with "pickup envy."

In reality, when I see a Rebel on the road, from some quarters, I have to look twice to see if it’s not a TRX. Good lookin’ rigs.

 

[Mallcrawler_392]

The TRX, IMO, is the most awesome pickup on the market! When I see one I can’t help but stare it, trying to soak in all of its “bold presence.” I will be sure not to park my Rebel next to a TRX so I don’t panic with "pickup envy."

It is a nice truck, just don'

The TRX, IMO, is the most awesome pickup on the market! When I see one I can’t help but stare it, trying to soak in all of its “bold presence.” I will be sure not to park my Rebel next to a TRX so I don’t panic with "pickup envy."

I think it in the Level 2 package is luxury, I just can't stand the front of it. I like the Raptor front end better.

 

[CBH]

Should have done both, the 392 and Rebel. We have a 392 XR and TRX. Both fun, but very different drives. Good luck with your new truck.

My new Rebel arrived today (29 March), less than 2 months from the 4 Feb order date -- the dealer was surprised. My only comment is: the lower black body stripe is glossy black; same as the door handles. The wheels, wheel arch moldings, running boards and bumpers are more of a satin black. So, I’m considering having the glossy black paint wrapped or painted satin black...or...I might just leave it alone for a while and see if it grows on me. Is your TRX single or two-toned?

 

[StuM]

My new Rebel arrived today (29 March), less than 2 months from the 4 Feb order date -- the dealer was surprised. My only comment is: the lower black body stripe is glossy black; same as the door handles. The wheels, wheel arch moldings, running boards and bumpers are more of a satin black. So, I’m considering having the glossy black paint wrapped or painted satin black...or...I might just leave it alone for a while and see if it grows on me. Is your TRX single or two-toned? View attachment 19531

Two tone on my TRX and I prefer that. It breaks up the large size a bit. It’s a bit of a gloss black metallic.

 

[thexr6]

My new Rebel arrived today (29 March), less than 2 months from the 4 Feb order date -- the dealer was surprised. My only comment is: the lower black body stripe is glossy black; same as the door handles. The wheels, wheel arch moldings, running boards and bumpers are more of a satin black. So, I’m considering having the glossy black paint wrapped or painted satin black...or...I might just leave it alone for a while and see if it grows on me. Is your TRX single or two-toned? View attachment 19531

How much did you get in trade for the 392? I assume you walked away with the rebel and a boatload of cash?

 

[CBH]

How much did you get in trade for the 392? I assume you walked away with the rebel and a boatload of cash?

It was almost a wash. They gave me $77K (I paid $77.7K for it in 2021) and my new 2023 Rebel was $78K. Fortunately, I only had to pay 6% sales tax on the $1K difference as they were able to hold the deal (and my $77K trade-in allowance) for 2 months until the Rebel came in. Last I saw, they had marked down the Jeep to $82K (from $89K) before it finally sold after 6 weeks. Some lucky person bought it over the phone and had it shipped to Louisiana. I don’t know what they paid for it.

 

[CBH]

Two tone on my TRX and I prefer that. It breaks up the large size a bit. It’s a bit of a gloss black metallic.

Handsome truck. Love that 2-tone color combo!