Theft Prevention: How to Decrease the Likelihood of Our 392s Getting Stolen

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More options to protect our 392s. There is the Ravelco some in this forum are installing. Ravelco (premium kill switch) is a great option, but at a cost of between $600 and $700.


I posted this at the top, but you can install a kill switch yourself for about $50, you just need to know your fuel pump wiring schematic:


Don't forget to protect your Key fob's signal from getting copied by putting your key in a Pouch similar to this:

MONOJOY Faraday Bag for Car Key Fob Protector, Keyless Signal Blocking Key fob Black Pouch Anti-Theft Remote Entry Smart Fob Case 2 Pack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076KZF64...abc_W093J6XC4QPYPD11H9QB?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

And, don't forget to protect your cats 🐈 also.

 

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I have been in contact with FCA/Jeep and Uconnect concerning the current vulnerability of the JL 392.
This link is their first answer.
 

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When do they think this will be available on our jeeps?
 

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When do they think this will be available on our jeeps?
"Probably a year away" was the answer I got. But I have escalated it up the chain. Waiting to hear from someone else.
 

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"Probably a year away" was the answer I got. But I have escalated it up the chain. Waiting to hear from someone else.
The person I spoke with was unaware of the vulnerability oy our Jeeps due to the Key FOB getting hacked. Someone has to know.
 

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I spoke with someone in the FCA side yesterday. The man said my letter had been forwarded to 2 different departments and sent further up the chain for review. ... I don't know if I brought something new to their attention, but I think they are listening now.
 

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Nice! And thank you for doing that! If you want to share the contact you sent it too, hopefully enough of us can have a loud enough voice to have them take action…
 

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Nice! And thank you for doing that! If you want to share the contact you sent it too, hopefully enough of us can have a loud enough voice to have them take action…
The case # is 80641111
First contact was with Jeep Wave....
Second was email....
Third contact was FCA customer service 800 334 9200
The following is the direction they are planning. I want them to apply it to Jeep. The more of us that the better. Thanks

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2021 Dodge Charger SRT Hellcat (left) and 2020 Dodge Challenger SRT Super Stock (right)

DODGE ANNOUNCES THREE NEW THEFT PROTECTION MEASURES​

By DodgeGarage 8/12/2021 9:21 PM Showcase6 min read
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Dodge has developed three new security measures to help protect owners from having their vehicles stolen by thieves. This includes the Enhanced Security Mode, Key Programming Lockdown and the Intrusion Module.
The Enhanced Security Mode allows the owner to enter a 4-digit code to limit engine output to less than 3 horsepower, and it will be available Monday for the 2021 model year Challengers and Chargers. Key Programming Lockdown prevents thieves from programming new keys and it will be available for 2020 and 2021 models as early as October, but the company is committed to having the system in action by January 2022. After the 2020 and 2021 models are handled, Dodge will roll out the same software for 2015 through 2019 model years, with a new year being added every six weeks. As for the Intrusion Module, it senses glass breakage, movement inside the vehicle and vehicle inclination, sounding the alarm if there are any changes. It will be offered for the 2022 model year, standard in cars with the 392 and SRT® Hellcat HEMI® engines and available in V6 and 5.7-liter-powered models.
For those who don’t want to wait for those updated security measures, Mopar® currently offers the Electronic Vehicle Tracking System, which can be purchased and installed into any modern Dodge vehicle.

CHALLENGER AND CHARGER THEFT

If you drive a Dodge Challenger or Charger, you have likely read an article about how the modern Mopar muscle cars have become popular targets of thieves. Some reports have glorified it enough to sound like these are the only vehicles being stolen, when in reality, it is less than two tenths of a percent of all thefts annually. Since 2016, there have been around 6,000 Challengers and Chargers stolen in the United States and while that might sound high, during that same 5-year period, roughly 3.75-million vehicles were stolen across America, as thieves take advantage of vehicles with keyless entry and push-button starting systems.
Although the Challenger and Charger account for less than two tenths of a percent of vehicles stolen over the past 5 years in the United States, the amount of media coverage for models with catchy automotive terms such as “Scat Pack” and “Hellcat” have led to an inordinate number of articles being written about these particular Dodge vehicles being stolen. Naturally, this has created a great deal of anxiety for many modern Mopar muscle car owners, but it has also put pressure on the folks from Dodge to help further protect against vehicle theft.
In seeing the concern from owners, Dodge went to work to devise a series of solutions to help protect your Challenger or Charger from being stolen. We recently had a chance to speak with the Dodge Brand, who shared the details on the new security measures for the modern Mopar muscle cars.

HOW THIEVES STEAL A MODERN DODGE

The Dodge Challenger, Charger and every other modern vehicle with keyless entry and push-button start relies on a key fob system. The key fob communicates via radio frequency with the vehicle whenever you push a button, but it also emits a constant signal that lets the car know that it is near or inside.
Unfortunately, after smashing a window to gain access to the vehicle and its electrical system, thieves use a gadget to program a new key fob. Once this happens, they can unlock the doors, start the car and drive away as though they have your key.
To battle this issue and other forms of theft, Dodge has come up with a trio of solutions for the Challenger and Charger to help stop car thieves in their tracks.

ENHANCED SECURITY MODE

Earlier this year, the Dodge brand announced plans to launch the Enhanced Security Mode, which replaces the standard Valet Mode. When engaged with a 4-digit code in the radio head unit, this software keeps the engine at idle speed, limiting the output to just 2.8 horsepower. With less than 3 horsepower, thieves won’t be able to take off with the car even if they have a key.
This solution will officially become available on Monday, August 16 for the 2021 Challengers and Chargers with either the 392-cubic inch or supercharged SRT Hellcat HEMI engines. The Enhanced Security Mode is installed by a simple dealer reflash and it is free to owners. This is also reversible, in case you decide that you want the original Valet Mode back.
This measure prevents a thief from making a speedy getaway in your car, but it doesn’t stop them in their tracks. That is why Dodge has developed two other, more aggressive options for Challenger and Charger owners who want to make sure that no one creates a new key in an effort to steal their beloved Mopar muscle car.

KEY PROGRAMMING LOCKDOWN

As mentioned above, the high tech thieves access the vehicle’s electrical system to program a new key. To put a stop to this, Dodge has developed the Key Programming Lockdown. As the name suggests, this locks the in-car portion of the key system, preventing thieves from creating a new key fob while allowing owners to retain all normal functions, which sounds like the perfect means of making these cars more secure.
There is only one downside to the Key Programming Lockdown. The same process is also what the dealership uses to make new keys for your Challenger or Charger, so if you have the lockdown performed, you will no longer be able to have a new key made unless you buy a new module. The module lists for $159, so if you lose all of your keys, you will need to buy new keys and a new module before having the key reprogrammed.
Dodge is aware that not being able to reprogram new keys can prove to be a headache down the road, so when owners take their Challenger or Charger in to have this software installed via a reflash of the computer system, they can also opt to have up to 2 keys made at a discounted rate.
The company is committed to having the Key Programming Lockdown available by January 2022, but the brand explained that they are targeting October 2021 for the initial rollout. At first, this solution will only be offered for 2020 and 2021 model year vehicles, but after the initial rollout, Dodge plans to release the software update approximately every six weeks to support an additional model year. This will continue back to the 2015 model year and it will be available for all Challengers and Chargers, regardless of the engine.
Finally, while this solution is currently being developed for the Challenger and Charger, the Dodge team recognizes the demand for increased security for Durango owners. The company plans to announce the Key Programming Lockdown for the roomy SUV in the near future.

INTRUSION MODULE

The last new security system that Dodge has developed is the Intrusion Module, which will be offered for the 2022 model year Challenger and Charger. Standard on Scat Pack and SRT Hellcat models while being optional on SXT, GT and R/T models, the Intrusion Module will detect a window being broken or anything moving inside the vehicle while also incorporating an inclination sensor. If someone breaks a window, reaches in through an open window or tries to tow the car away, the alarm is activated in a similar fashion to many popular aftermarket alarm systems.
This measure can be deactivated via the radio head unit in the event that you park the car with people inside, or if you are hauling your Challenger or Charger somewhere in a trailer.
When you pair the Intrusion Module with the Key Programming Lockdown, thieves will not be able to create a new key, nor will they be able to break in or tow away a Dodge Challenger or Charger without the alarm blaring.
In summary, if you have a 2021 Challenger or Charger, you can upgrade to the Enhanced Security Mode starting on Monday. If you have a 2020 or 2021 model, you could be able to add the Key Programming Lockdown system as soon as October and if you own one of the muscle cars from 2015 through 2019, that system could be available early next year. If you buy a 2022 model, it will come with the Intrusion Module as either a standard or optional feature.

MOPAR ELECTRONIC VEHICLE TRACKING SYSTEM

If you want a tighter security system right away, Mopar offers their Electronic Vehicle Tracking System or EVTS. This system costs $495


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I hope this comes to us soon.

While we wait for help from Stellantis, there are easy to install, low cost “theft inhibitors” to keep "low-tech" thieves from preying on your new Jeep, like locking gas caps, lug nuts and locking hood latches, including these MOPAR-style latches from Amazon I installed in less than 30 minutes:

 

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Update: I considered installing this on my 392. Well, in a few words...no can do.

All the tech in these new vehicles prevents devices like this kill switch to work well. It works extremely well in vehicles in which you still have to turn the ignition key to start them.

 

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Update: I considered installing this on my 392. Well, in a few words...no can do.

All the tech in these new vehicles prevents devices like this kill switch to work well. It works extremely well in vehicles in which you still have to turn the ignition key to start them.

Frankly, I’m afraid to do anything to my Jeep that might call my warranty into question should I run into a problem later...and from past experience with my dealership, I have zero confidence they will “go to bat” for me when dealing with Stellantis.
 
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Frankly, I’m afraid to do anything to my Jeep that might call my warranty into question should I run into a problem later...and from past experience with my dealership, I have zero confidence they will “go to bat” for me when dealing with Stellantis.
Very true! The vehicle warranty can be jeopardized with some mods, especially electrical mods messing/interrupting any of the computers.

Glad I didn't splice any wires to find out this kill switch will not work. Phew.
 

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Based on the whole of the situation, the vulnerability/liability of all of the sold and unsold vehicles on dealership lots, I think Jeep/Dodge will have a software upgrade very soon. They are in the testing phase now. We are using the faraday bag only. A determined thief will overcome just about any other mechanical apparatus. ..... imho
 
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Based on the whole of the situation, the vulnerability/liability of all of the sold and unsold vehicles on dealership lots, I think Jeep/Dodge will have a software upgrade very soon. They are in the testing phase now. We are using the faraday bag only. A determined thief will overcome just about any other mechanical apparatus. ..... imho
Agree. I like the solutions Mopar is working on, especially the locking of the computer to prevent additional keys from being made.
 

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…and why isn’t this Tazer Mini feature a STANDARD feature enabled by Jeep on ALL Wranglers ?

– Hood Alarm – When the vehicle theft alarm is armed, monitors hood activity and will sound
the alarm and flash light shows if opened.
 

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I hope this comes to us soon.

Sadly, here we go. The first stolen 392 reported Here. This is infuriating! Someone tried to steal my 2003 Rubicon that had a "high tech" Viper alarm system and a hidden kill switch about 10 years ago. The alarm system was bypassed, but my $30 (price 10 yrs ago) kill switch saved the day as it could not be found.

This video shows how easy it is to steal vehicles with a key FOB. I bought my 392 at MSRP with the agreement of purchasing the Mopar EVTS (electronic vehicle tracking system). Basically it follows your vehicle's every single move, good in the event the vehicle is flat bedded. Of course, this system is useless without the yearly fee for the monitoring agency. I haven't decided on whether it is worth it or not...after two days of ownership 🙂.

LoJack is a very expensive kill switch, but appears to work. I'm planning on just making my own, or buying, a kill switch again. Our Jeeps are going to be (already are?) highly desired by thieves.

Have you had experience with theft prevention devices in the past? Or, what will you do (if anything) to protect against car theft?
May I also suggest putting something over your window vin#. I also keep my registration and insurance card hidden. The trips to the car wash, mechanic and valet make you vulnerable to someone not only programming your key (yes I know it’s on the door post) but more importantly knowing where to go get it. Tazer mini slows you to turn the hood alarm on as well. I also had mine GPS,d so I can find it. Not calling the police…….
 
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May I also suggest putting something over your window vin#. I also keep my registration and insurance card hidden. The trips to the car wash, mechanic and valet make you vulnerable to someone not only programming your key (yes I know it’s on the door post) but more importantly knowing where to go get it. Tazer mini slows you to turn the hood alarm on as well. I also had mine GPS,d so I can find it. Not calling the police…….
Great points and suggestions!
 
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May I also suggest putting something over your window vin#. I also keep my registration and insurance card hidden. The trips to the car wash, mechanic and valet make you vulnerable to someone not only programming your key (yes I know it’s on the door post) but more importantly knowing where to go get it. Tazer mini slows you to turn the hood alarm on as well. I also had mine GPS,d so I can find it. Not calling the police…….
I second BrianR’s comment about hiding anything that has your home address on it. Years ago my state deleted home addresses on auto registrations after a spate of robberies where thieves broke into vehicles while the owners were preoccupied away from their homes, found the owner’s address, then burglarized the owner’s home.
 

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I second BrianR’s comment about hiding anything that has your home address on it. Years ago my state deleted home addresses on auto registrations after a spate of robberies where thieves broke into vehicles while the owners were preoccupied away from their homes, found the owner’s address, then burglarized the owner’s home.
Hmmm. Your profile says you are in FL as I am. My registration clearly states my home address.
 

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Hmmm. Your profile says you are in FL as I am. My registration clearly states my home address.
I was living in Colorado Springs, CO at the time. In one incident, the vehicle owner walked out of a restaurant, saw his vehicle broken into and his registration missing; called the Police who went to his house and interrupted the burglary, killing one of the burglars. After that I hid my registration and changed the “home” location in my Nav system to an intersection a few blocks away from my house.
 

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