2nd Day Owning. Powertrain MALFUNCTION at 201 miles!

[GERONIMO-USMC]

If you are coming to Jeep from other brands, you probably already discovered that both the quality and fit/finish of their leather interior are shite (using apples to apples comparisons with similarly priced vehicles from competitors). Some people will say that this is a small price to pay for having removable roof panels and a naturally aspirated V8 (and they may be right).

I'd say don't worry about the leather and vinyl floor cuts. Even if you do get Jeep to cover warranty replacements for these (this will not be quick or easy), you have a chance of apes in the dealership damaging something else during "repair" process. Besides, these are minor issues compared to the possible engine issue you may already have and multiple panel corrosion coming to you around 2-4 years from now (Google "Wrangler corrosion").

I appreciate the insight.

Well, I’ve had about 4 JK Rubicons. All with leather, and I still have the 2024 JL 4xe X. All have leather. None have exhibited the leather issue in the rear seat like that.

This is my most expensive Jeep yet. I will not overlook the issues on a matter of principle, without taking it up a notch with Jeep especially when I’m spending good money with plans on keeping this one.

Yes, you are right about them potentially ruining something, but I have the warranty, and do not expect this quality for the price, so if they do mess it up, they will have to keep redoing it till they get it right. Vinyl flooring was a $1000 option.

I’ve protected the 24’s door hinges with chip protection covers. None of that one’s hinges have any sign of corrosion in the 3 years I’ve had it so far. Not even on the unprotected hood hinges which get the most abuse. 2026 hinges are supposedly better made as well.

The engine issue concerns me of course. I do not have the check engine light anymore. I already spoke to Jeep Customer service on Monday, and they told me I could drive it to a local dealer, I’ll set an appointment for that.

I’m also missing the ACC cover as well, so that will have to be remedied as well.

 

[GERONIMO-USMC]

Curious, do the positioning controls work on the Passenger mirror? If not it might be something a simple as unseated or disconnected plug.

And this comment is no excuse for insufficient quality control on Jeeps part but this seems to be the de-facto standard of automotive manufactures today. Keep the faith brother, don't let it get you down.

Thanks.
The mirror controls do work.

 

[@WhiteBronze392]

Examples of the rear vinyl issues.

That is typical for how Armorlite looks. I installed mine myself aftermarket. You may be able to adjust a little but you will see the seams

 

[GERONIMO-USMC]

That is typical for how Armorlite looks. I installed mine myself aftermarket. You may be able to adjust a little but you will see the seams

Thank you.
I'm fine with the seams. It's the cut outs that are raggedly, and improperly cut. It looks worse in person.

 

[@WhiteBronze392]

Thank you.
I'm fine with the seams. It's the cut outs that are raggedly, and improperly cut. It looks worse in person.

Pics of mine for comparison

 

[GERONIMO-USMC]

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Way better than mine. Want to trade?

 

[@WhiteBronze392]

Way better than mine. Want to trade?

Looks about the same to me TBH

 

[TinaBeans]

From my 2021 JLUR days, I checked the fuses when I picked up my Moab 392 last week. Most were not completely seated! This is still an issue? Hopefully the engine issue is from something similar and simple like a loose ECM connector.

 

[guruman]

From my 2021 JLUR days, I checked the fuses when I picked up my Moab 392 last week. Most were not completely seated! This is still an issue? Hopefully the engine issue is from something similar and simple like a loose ECM connector.

Fuses will hardly ever be fully seated. If fully seated, any significant vibration can only cause them to work out a bit. the machines that place the fuses in the slot cannot really be programed to fully seat them, as any part variance could cause damage to the fuse, box, or machine from hitting the bottom too hard. they are not fully seated by design.

Now, maybe some of them are not getting seated enough causing issues, but all the way, all the time is kind of an impossible standard.

 

[TinaBeans]

Fuses will hardly ever be fully seated. If fully seated, any significant vibration can only cause them to work out a bit. the machines that place the fuses in the slot cannot really be programed to fully seat them, as any part variance could cause damage to the fuse, box, or machine from hitting the bottom too hard. they are not fully seated by design.

Now, maybe some of them are not getting seated enough causing issues, but all the way, all the time is kind of an a

Fuses will hardly ever be fully seated. If fully seated, any significant vibration can only cause them to work out a bit. the machines that place the fuses in the slot cannot really be programed to fully seat them, as any part variance could cause damage to the fuse, box, or machine from hitting the bottom too hard. they are not fully seated by design.

Now, maybe some of them are not getting seated enough causing issues, but all the way, all the time is kind of an impossible standard.

All variables can be controlled if everything is within tolerance. Quality control should address anything out of tolerance. I worked in supply chain management, quality, production engineering and sales in automotive manufacturing. There’s nothing that can’t be fixed without time and resources. If they can’t engineer a solution, then it needs to be addressed by a quality check or inspected at the dealership and charged back against the delivery charges.

My guess is that there’s so many issues, this one is down on the list of things to fix. My last Jeep had well-seated fuses which were part of the delivery inspection at the dealership. They have since moved the delivery inspection off site. I’m guessing they may have hired a 3rd party to do the work for the dealership which is not as thorough.

 

[3TV]

Fuses will hardly ever be fully seated. If fully seated, any significant vibration can only cause them to work out a bit. the machines that place the fuses in the slot cannot really be programed to fully seat them, as any part variance could cause damage to the fuse, box, or machine from hitting the bottom too hard. they are not fully seated by design.

Now, maybe some of them are not getting seated enough causing issues, but all the way, all the time is kind of an impossible standard.

Well said. Fuses not being fully seated is much to do about nothing.

 

[JeepCares]

I appreciate the insight.

Well, I’ve had about 4 JK Rubicons. All with leather, and I still have the 2024 JL 4xe X. All have leather. None have exhibited the leather issue in the rear seat like that.

This is my most expensive Jeep yet. I will not overlook the issues on a matter of principle, without taking it up a notch with Jeep especially when I’m spending good money with plans on keeping this one.

Yes, you are right about them potentially ruining something, but I have the warranty, and do not expect this quality for the price, so if they do mess it up, they will have to keep redoing it till they get it right. Vinyl flooring was a $1000 option.

I’ve protected the 24’s door hinges with chip protection covers. None of that one’s hinges have any sign of corrosion in the 3 years I’ve had it so far. Not even on the unprotected hood hinges which get the most abuse. 2026 hinges are supposedly better made as well.

The engine issue concerns me of course. I do not have the check engine light anymore. I already spoke to Jeep Customer service on Monday, and they told me I could drive it to a local dealer, I’ll set an appointment for that.

I’m also missing the ACC cover as well, so that will have to be remedied as well.

Hi @GERONIMO-USMC,

We are sorry to learn about your vehicle concerns. If you are still needing additional support alongside the dealership, please send us a private message with your VIN.

Blair
Jeep Cares

 

[GERONIMO-USMC]

Hi @GERONIMO-USMC,

We are sorry to learn about your vehicle concerns. If you are still needing additional support alongside the dealership, please send us a private message with your VIN.

Blair
Jeep Cares

PM sent!

 

[Un4seen4]

Not to hijack the thread, but I wonder if there is some credence with buying a used 392 with 30, 40 or even 50K on it. Being in that if its made it that far with out any major issues, it would be more likely to last another 40-50K vs a new untested one.

 

[JeepCares]

PM sent!

Thanks, @GERONIMO-USMC!

Blair
Jeep Cares

 

[GERONIMO-USMC]

Not to hijack the thread, but I wonder if there is some credence with buying a used 392 with 30, 40 or even 50K on it. Being in that if its made it that far with out any major issues, it would be more likely to last another 40-50K vs a new untested one.

I would like to think a 392 can last over a couple hundred miles.

 

[Un4seen4]

I would like to think a 392 can last over a couple hundred miles.

100% agree

 

[Winston]

I would like to think a 392 can last over a couple hundred miles.

They can, and do. It's unfortunate that someone (you in this case) is bound to get a lemon. Especially for your first purchase/experience of this rig. I sure hope you're taken care of so you can enjoy this for a long time.

 

[OldVetteGuy]

Let's all hope for Geronimo this is just a minor snag that can be quickly resolved.

As far as the floor is concerned I had the vinyl floor on my prior JLUR, it too did not look good and fixed it where the cut was nearly UN-detectable.

Here's what I did, fold up some aluminum foil, cut about a 1/4 slot in it and put it directly on top of the cut in the vinyl, carefully use a heat gun until it begins to gloss over, the rough edges will melt down and not be as noticeable. Just be careful work slowly and keep a close watch. Also don't put the heat gun down anywhere on the interior while your doing this process!

Hang in there Geronimo, I think you will get things sorted out!

 

[GERONIMO-USMC]

Hello. today is the day before my dealership appointment. I want to also add 2 things.

The metal gas port cover doesn’t close all the way, and it came with some very small chips missing the black coating on it.

It has been raining here this week. I looked inside the jeep, and found a pool of water about 1/2 in high inside the driver's side footwell.

I am so angry and disappointed in JEEP. This is crazy. I've bought many Jeeps.

This has been the most expensive, and worst built Jeep I have ever owned!