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Dad joke out of the way...it's a diag tool.
Power steering pump recall
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Dad joke out of the way...it's a diag tool.
So I called to see if they could check out the recall while they were doing the oil change. I was originally told the same thing that if they found a problem, they could not release my vehicle back to me. That seemed insane to me, it’s my vehicle. I was told it was a safety issue., I was told to wait and I will be notified when they have parts available before they inspect it. So fast-forward a few days, I take it in for the oil change and I’m talking to the service guy about what I was told on the phone. He said we cannot keep your Jeep, it’s your vehicle. We will inspect it while it’s here and if it needs to be repaired, we will call you when the parts are in, but you will leave with your Jeep. He said, we’ve done probably 500 inspections so far and not one has failed. So you’re probably good. Mine was inspected and all came back good. So don’t let them tell you they’re gonna keep your Jeep. They cannot!
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Srtmodmaster
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So my dealer explained to me that they expect to possibly see this on the heavier duty builds like the 392s the Rubicon X anything set up to do serious off roading from jeep running the 35’s! The electric steering apparently wasn’t built strong enough to handle the insane loads that could be placed on the steering system itself. The harness needed a heavier gauge wire to handle the current needed to work that pump, their inspections do several things, the first, of course, to see if the harness shows evidence of being hot or in some cases melting at the pump connection in those cases it won’t only be a harness upgrade, but they will most likely change the pump along with it! Secondly, those that come in for the inspection get on the list earlier when the parts finally do come in and of course, the third reason this quick inspection could be done in the parking lot of course they bill for lift time and are probably making a fortune as it appears warranty work actually does pay!! here in New York. We don’t really have too many areas where you can do really nice rock crawling, or the off-road parks like you have out west my wife’s Jeep honestly has only seen the sand maybe a half a dozen times. now when you watch those videos where some of our members are putting their jeeps to the test it’s quite obvious. Jeep built it to withstand this punishment, but unfortunately, even a dozen eggs if handled a little rough, will net you a broken egg or two it appears Stellantis is looking for those eggs, I’m sure they’ll be other stories that we will hear down the line, but none funnier than the half a dozen dealers that I’ve been romancing looking for a slightly used 392 for my daughter that will be graduating med school, and all of a sudden a day or two after this recall came out without saying a word about the alleged recall I’m getting emails and text and voicemails where they’re now offering to drop their pants. I guess it’s a good thing if we’re shopping and honestly doesn’t hurt us unless we’re trying to sell ours during the interim of this recall!! Either way, I love my Jeep. My wife loves her Jeep, most of us love our jeep, sooner or later they’ll find the broken eggs and replacing with new ones in the meantime for all of our brothers and sisters that put our jeeps to the test, be aware and have their Jeep looked at.
- Jul 3, 2025
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The original power steering gear in the 2018 JL was designed at the max to be used with 33 inch tires, and a lightweight V6. Not 35 and larger like 37's and 40 plus the extra weight of the 392. In all honesty I am amazed it does as well as it does.
Steering, cooling, transfer case and differentials used in the 392 are for the most part at the absolute limits of their design limitations.
As a result we are beta testers for the platform. An in all honesty I think the reason Jeep hasn't announced the 392 Gladiator. That application will push the platform over the edge as it will be expected to tow at least 7k, and have a curb weight much higher then the Wrangler.
For us Wrangler owners these short comings are just something we will need to deal worth. We can thank or fellow Wrangler owners who push the envelope of current design and use their Jeeps to the extreme. They really discover the weak parts before we general owners ever know about it!
Steering, cooling, transfer case and differentials used in the 392 are for the most part at the absolute limits of their design limitations.
As a result we are beta testers for the platform. An in all honesty I think the reason Jeep hasn't announced the 392 Gladiator. That application will push the platform over the edge as it will be expected to tow at least 7k, and have a curb weight much higher then the Wrangler.
For us Wrangler owners these short comings are just something we will need to deal worth. We can thank or fellow Wrangler owners who push the envelope of current design and use their Jeeps to the extreme. They really discover the weak parts before we general owners ever know about it!
Agar426
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Apologies if this has been covered, but:
1) What will the repair entail? Upgraded harness and pump?
2) Has this issue been addressed on new builds, such as late 2026, or yet to be built 2027? I can't imagine they'd continue to build them without addressing it?
3) Will the repair be better than some of the aftermarket upgrades that are out there, such as the Apex and PSC versions? If not "better," at least rendering these upgrades less of an appeal to the owner?
1) What will the repair entail? Upgraded harness and pump?
2) Has this issue been addressed on new builds, such as late 2026, or yet to be built 2027? I can't imagine they'd continue to build them without addressing it?
3) Will the repair be better than some of the aftermarket upgrades that are out there, such as the Apex and PSC versions? If not "better," at least rendering these upgrades less of an appeal to the owner?
392... The Bronco Killer
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Dealership inspected mine last week and all good. 
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Considering there is a 58 page tech procedure on what needs to be done it's fairly intense depending on what they find, if you do have the problem and the pump and harness needs to be replaced your probably looking at 2 days (and that is if the parts are in stock) The tech is allocated .3 hours simply for the inspection and nothing else, it goes up from their depending on what they find.
Armsbearer
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- Dec 27, 2024
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Dealership inspected my 2024 Wrangler 392 FE and 2021 Wrangler Willys today. All good.
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Do you have an idea of the weight difference between the v6 and our v8 ? Toss in the diesel if you’re up for it thanks ,
3TV
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Thanks for posting that link. My Jeep has been converted to a full PSC system, so I had been wondering if I still need to take it in for an inspection. I looked at the pictures in your link and then looked at my Jeep. None of the parts they are inspecting are in my Jeep anymore, so no inspection is needed.
Had my 2024 Wrangler 392 checked out at the dealer today. They inspected some wiring harness and said it was fine. This might be unrelated but my power steering pump overheats almost every time I go offroading but I haven't had any issues beyond the warning light. Has anyone actually had an issue with the power steering system on trail besides the warning light?
Yes. Power steering pump would overheat and then lose function.
My local dealerships were booked out for weeks and repair parts are still unavailable.
Replaced with PSC system eliminating the OEM EHPSP and its wiring harness.
I'm on my 3rd power steering pump at 15,000 miles. I would get the PS Hot light and eventually the pumps would start leaking. I mounted a fan in front of the pump that I run when in 4Lo. Haven't had the light since. I also added the Extreme RPM Fan Controller which has dropped the engine temperature by 25 degrees. Overall I think the Extreme RPM Fan Controller would probably help keep everything under the hood cooler.
Ten4Jeep
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PS Pump Connectors on my 2023 392XR passed inspection at Dealer today. Inquired about the TSB for RF Hub Lock but they wanted to charge ~$200, since I'm beyond 3yr warranty period. I told them not to do it. At least the PS Pump recall is clear now.
Here is the PSC pump and cooler kit. It fixes the issue, and you can add a hydro ram whenever you want if you decide to at a later time.
Another option is a kit to modify the pressure of the factory pump and add a cooler as well. They were talking about in on the Epic Adventure Outfitters podcast.
www.pscsteering.com
Edit: found it
Another option is a kit to modify the pressure of the factory pump and add a cooler as well. They were talking about in on the Epic Adventure Outfitters podcast.
High Performance EPAS Pump Kit – Jeep JL 392 (21–24) | PSC Steering
PSC High Performance Electric Power Steering Pump Kit for Jeep 392 keeps steering cool, consistent, and powerful for big tires and rugged trails.
www.pscsteering.com
Edit: found it
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Captaink
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I'm new to this site.I do have a question regarding the recall. I have a 22 392 XR Stock. I currently have no no codes with Jscan connections are fully seated. if I go in for the recall now and go to 37's do some off-roading down here on the Baja. It is only a two and a half hour drive to he dealer. the one I prefer is more like three. What is the likely hood of having an issue then?My thought process says the issue arises with over size tires and aggressive off-roading. Do i take it back again after some rock climbing?
I suppose the general opinion will be to upgrade to a different P/S system. Not sure how I feel about that. I get it things were designed for things to be a certain way and now problems are occurring because we the end users are modifying the status quo. Just my thoughts.
I suppose the general opinion will be to upgrade to a different P/S system. Not sure how I feel about that. I get it things were designed for things to be a certain way and now problems are occurring because we the end users are modifying the status quo. Just my thoughts.
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