heated seats and now cameras

[great one 99]

What I've seen is many posts on this and other forums about spurious unrelated driver display warnings popping up either intermittently or constantly, where the CAN Buss connector behind the glove box was changed and it resolved the issues. This includes my brother's recently purchased 2019 Wrangler when it had the radiator fan, A/C, and other systems quit, various annunciations, etc. My brother was sorta half pissed, half ' I told you so' (about all the electronics, since he's super old school), I told him it's likely a central fault in the CAN Buss, and the "green/Star/CAN Buss connector" has gotten a lot of traffic on Mopar products. He pissed and moaned a week or so, and I just ordered a CAN Buss connector and gave it to him. He was so dejected that he didn't change it for a couple weeks, until I kept prodding him. Once it was changed, magically, everything was fine.

I think they have changed or tried various cables , the radio and its module have been changed , heat seat module has been changed , camera processing module has been changed , now they think the radio they put in is bad , it’s an endless parts change out , that has solved not one thing . They never update me , I have to call to get any new info , bad or good .o hate to say the 2 vehicles I’ve had the most problems with r both a 2019 ram and this 2025 wrangler , I had a tundra with 375000 miles no issue , 2 raptors no issues , 2 lexuses no issues . This is the last jeep ram product I will ever ever buy .

 

[roaniecowpony]

I think they have changed or tried various cables , the radio and its module have been changed , heat seat module has been changed , camera processing module has been changed , now they think the radio they put in is bad , it’s an endless parts change out , that has solved not one thing . They never update me , I have to call to get any new info , bad or good .o hate to say the 2 vehicles I’ve had the most problems with r both a 2019 ram and this 2025 wrangler , I had a tundra with 375000 miles no issue , 2 raptors no issues , 2 lexuses no issues . This is the last jeep ram product I will ever ever buy .

Sorry you're having such a bad experience with your jeep. I understand the feeling. My 2018 3.6 engine shit the bed 2 years ago at 34k miles. I replaced it myself with a 2024 Gladiator take-out from AMW4x4. When I first bought the 2018, it steered like a 40 year old U-haul truck. It was so bad, I stopped at a front end shop on the drive home. My wife refused to drive it after one drive. There were many other "little" things I fixed over the years. My wife says it's a POS. I swore off new Jeeps. Then I forgot and bought the 2026 392. I'm a sucker.

 

[great one 99]

Sorry you're having such a bad experience with your jeep. I understand the feeling. My 2018 3.6 engine shit the bed 2 years ago at 34k miles. I replaced it myself with a 2024 Gladiator take-out from AMW4x4. When I first bought the 2018, it steered like a 40 year old U-haul truck. It was so bad, I stopped at a front end shop on the drive home. My wife refused to drive it after one drive. There were many other "little" things I fixed over the years. My wife says it's a POS. I swore off new Jeeps. Then I forgot and bought the 2026 392. I'm a sucker.

I will be honest , my wife hated the 2024 raptor , so I caved and bought the 392 , biggest mistake I ever made , it drives like shit , handles like shit , and now seems to be built like shit . Live an

 

[OldVetteGuy]

Sorry you're having such a bad experience with your jeep. I understand the feeling. My 2018 3.6 engine shit the bed 2 years ago at 34k miles. I replaced it myself with a 2024 Gladiator take-out from AMW4x4. When I first bought the 2018, it steered like a 40 year old U-haul truck. It was so bad, I stopped at a front end shop on the drive home. My wife refused to drive it after one drive. There were many other "little" things I fixed over the years. My wife says it's a POS. I swore off new Jeeps. Then I forgot and bought the 2026 392. I'm a sucker.

Roaniecowpony, I would have to totally agree with you, I too had a 2018 JL with that wonderful Pentacrap engine, in the first 50k, 2 sets of camshafts and rockers, at 60k it was starting to tick again so I quickly bailed and sent it down the road. Plus, the aluminum steering box made it wander like a drunk 20 dollar hooker, the electric fans always sounded like a jet fighter taking off.

Then I sold it off I made and even bigger mistake, I bought a new 25 Colorado Z71. This was the epitome of a POS with its 2.7l turbo sewing machine motor. This thing couldn't even tow 3k without overheating. Want to talk about electrical gremlins ? I think this truck was ghost buster central. The metal in the roof was so thin it would buckle if you took it through an automated carwash. Plus, It spent more time at the dealership then in my garage, I finally said enough when it left my wife stranded and sold it back to the dealership.

After the Colorado fiasco, GM was dead to me to. I too fell pray to the glitz and glitter of the 392 in the Wrangler, It seemed like the last good old fashioned engine I had any faith in and the ultimate in a Jeep. But it too is not without fault as it has a number of intermittent connect gremlins that requires reboots from time to time.

One other thing I wanted to mention: Your right on with the 18/19 JL's having big issues with the green canbus block in the glove compartment. To Jeep's credit they finally changed their supplier and fixed that one, it only took them 2 years to figure it out.
Keep in mind this is where those using a Nolimitz have it plugged in, just let that one settle in when you think about additional electrical gremlins.

Ok, with all of that said, Auto manufacture these days are looking only to make vehicles that can live long enough to make it to the warranty expiration, were simply along for the ride as long as that might last..... Of course a Honda's not much fun to drive but at least it will get you there, lol. Hang in there Great One 99!