Fast Forward...Which will be considered the last true great 392?

[Ten4Jeep]

Is it really true that red is the only choice for seat color on 2024?!? Way too flashy and adolescent for me. The black leather with gold stitching is way better looking and gives the Wrangler a handsome, mature, and chiseled look along with the masculine grill!! The 2024 grill looks like it’s squinting and seems feminine.

Curious, does the 2024 wheels have 25 bolts on the ring? The ones that came with the 10 bolt design look anemic. I have the 25 bolt design and it just looks right!! I hope they don’t put those 10 or 12 bolt rings on the 2024 because it’s already got enough ugly styling cues, especially that “afterthought engineering” way they squeezed the bigger touchscreen onto the dash

 

[Marksman]

Is it really true that red is the only choice for seat color on 2024?!? Way too flashy and adolescent for me. The black leather with gold stitching is way better looking and gives the Wrangler a handsome, mature, and chiseled look along with the masculine grill!! The 2024 grill looks like it’s squinting and seems feminine.

Curious, does the 2024 wheels have 25 bolts on the ring? The ones that came with the 10 bolt design look anemic. I have the 25 bolt design and it just looks right!! I hope they don’t put those on the 2024 because it’s already got enough ugly styling cues, especially that “afterthought engineering” way they squeezed the bigger touchscreen onto the dash

12 bolts on the ‘24 ring.

 

[Uncommon Sense]

Just to demonstrate how poor of an investment cars are... even as highly desirable models.

The original Acura NSX in 1990 retailed for around $60,000. That is the equivalent of paying about $140,000 in 2023 for a car. Just a quick search is showing prices for a good condition NSX to be anywhere from $90,000 to $140,000 or so. Not bad for a 32 year old car. So basically, the $60,000 car kept up with inflation for 32 years depending on assumptions. So basically the car didn't depreciate.

Keep in mind this is one of the most desirable older cars right now.

On the other hand, had you just plopped that $60,000 into the S&P 500 index fund on Jan. 1 1990 and reinvested all the dividends and not adding any additional funds. Your $60k investment would be worth about $1.5 million right now.

Granted, there is a certain enjoyment you get from owning a car, but anyone purchasing a car as an investment or future investment desirability clearly isn't thinking straight.

Which would you rather have? An OG $140k car people drool over at Cars & Coffee or $1.5 million in the bank?

 

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12 bolts on the ‘24 ring.

12 bolts on the ‘24 ring.

Just to demonstrate how poor of an investment cars are... even as highly desirable models.

The original Acura NSX in 1990 retailed for around $60,000. That is the equivalent of paying about $140,000 in 2023 for a car. Just a quick search is showing prices for a good condition NSX to be anywhere from $90,000 to $140,000 or so. Not bad for a 32 year old car. So basically, the $60,000 car kept up with inflation for 32 years depending on assumptions. So basically the car didn't depreciate.

Keep in mind this is one of the most desirable older cars right now.

On the other hand, had you just plopped that $60,000 into the S&P 500 index fund on Jan. 1 1990 and reinvested all the dividends and not adding any additional funds. Your $60k investment would be worth about $1.5 million right now.

Granted, there is a certain enjoyment you get from owning a car, but anyone purchasing a car as an investment or future investment desirability clearly isn't thinking straight.

Which would you rather have? An OG $140k car people drool over at Cars & Coffee or $1.5 million in the bank?

Both....even on what's going on with the economy now $140k vehicle is nothing these days and 1.5 million in the bank is achievable easily to most. I don't think most owners here are buying Jeep Wranglers 392 for the sake of investment. Maybe.....but a grown man's toy, that's all it is and pure enjoyment. It just happens that the resale value of the Wranglers are superb and with the 392 it's nice to mention it can be an investment, but I doubt it. Most are already in a verge of retirement lol, I don't think the thought of investing and getting something with most of us won't even exist anymore is not realistic. Obviously spending a six digit vehicle will not change our plans for the future and some already have more than $140k vehicles with more than 1.5 million in the bank and still growing the way most of us have here. We all have a choice. I don't sacrifice and I don't compete. I don't like the idea of I have to give up something just to get another. I don't want to rule the world, I want to conquer the universe. I take it all, Just my take.

 

[Uncommon Sense]

Both....even on what's going on with the economy now $140k vehicle is nothing these days and 1.5 million in the bank is achievable easily to most. I don't think most owners here are buying Jeep Wranglers 392 for the sake of investment. Maybe.....but a grown man's toy, that's all it is and pure enjoyment. It just happens that the resale value of the Wranglers are superb and with the 392 it's nice to mention it can be an investment, but I doubt it. Most are already in a verge of retirement lol, I don't think the thought of investing and getting something with most of us won't even exist anymore is not realistic. Obviously spending a six digit vehicle will not change our plans for the future and some already have more than $140k vehicles with more than 1.5 million in the bank and still growing the way most of us have here. We all have a choice. I don't sacrifice and I don't compete. I don't like the idea of I have to give up something just to get another. I don't want to rule the world, I want to conquer the universe. I take it all, Just my take.

I hear you. I don't disagree.

I splurged on my 392 because tomorrow is not promised and I could afford it and still put quite a bit away for a rainy day.

My point was just we often see how much older cars are worth today, but it can be misleading in terms of investment return when you actually dig deeper.

 

[TheBeast23]

Almost the same story with me…

Had a ‘21 XR and loved most everything about it, but thought the 20A had just enough WOW factor to justify the trade. So I spec’d a 20A out with everything that I wanted on the day the order banks opened in February and waited patiently until it finally showed up in late July.

When it arrived, coincidentally, so did a ‘24 spec’d nearly the same as my 20A (with the exception of a factory winch) and the choice was a no-brainer for me in choosing the ‘24.

Still love both though, especially that cool hood decal on the 20A!

Love My 20A….Could not be happier

 

[Dral97]

Just to demonstrate how poor of an investment cars are... even as highly desirable models.

The original Acura NSX in 1990 retailed for around $60,000. That is the equivalent of paying about $140,000 in 2023 for a car. Just a quick search is showing prices for a good condition NSX to be anywhere from $90,000 to $140,000 or so. Not bad for a 32 year old car. So basically, the $60,000 car kept up with inflation for 32 years depending on assumptions. So basically the car didn't depreciate.

Keep in mind this is one of the most desirable older cars right now.

On the other hand, had you just plopped that $60,000 into the S&P 500 index fund on Jan. 1 1990 and reinvested all the dividends and not adding any additional funds. Your $60k investment would be worth about $1.5 million right now.

Granted, there is a certain enjoyment you get from owning a car, but anyone purchasing a car as an investment or future investment desirability clearly isn't thinking straight.

Which would you rather have? An OG $140k car people drool over at Cars & Coffee or $1.5 million in the bank?

This. It’s why I sold my FJ TTUE, just last year in near perfect condition with only 50k miles. I traded it for a Bronco first edition which I’m actually driving and will likely sell off in a few years.

 

[YukonCornelius]

but a grown man's toy, that's all it is and pure enjoyment. It just happens that the resale value of the Wranglers are superb

That's why!

 

[cgrosen324]

I'd prefer a '24 but it makes no sense financially for me to upgrade from my '22XR. I do want the airbags as mine is a daily family hauler, but I can't make the numbers work now. I thought it was ridiculous paying $76k with 2% financing. No way I am going pay like $95k with 7%+ rates now....

I’m in the same boat. In fact I looked at a ‘24 a couple weeks ago and just couldn’t talk myself into it….and I’m a dumbass when it comes to buying vehicles. I’d love to have a ‘24 but there’s no way with the current conditions. I could probably get over the price difference but these interest rates are outrageous. I’m stuck with my ‘21 XR Sting Gray POS

 

[Tunderhill]

Both....even on what's going on with the economy now $140k vehicle is nothing these days and 1.5 million in the bank is achievable easily to most. I don't think most owners here are buying Jeep Wranglers 392 for the sake of investment. Maybe.....but a grown man's toy, that's all it is and pure enjoyment. It just happens that the resale value of the Wranglers are superb and with the 392 it's nice to mention it can be an investment, but I doubt it. Most are already in a verge of retirement lol, I don't think the thought of investing and getting something with most of us won't even exist anymore is not realistic. Obviously spending a six digit vehicle will not change our plans for the future and some already have more than $140k vehicles with more than 1.5 million in the bank and still growing the way most of us have here. We all have a choice. I don't sacrifice and I don't compete. I don't like the idea of I have to give up something just to get another. I don't want to rule the world, I want to conquer the universe. I take it all, Just my take.

I agree with the sentiment but I think you are missing the other posters point. If you had invested that 60k in the market in 1990, and had 1.5m, you could then go buy the 140k 1990 Acura and have 1.36M in the bank. You can have your cake and eat it too and it doesn’t involve keeping a car for 30 years. His post actually made me rethink things. I’m going to enjoy my 22XR while I can and not worry about it as an investment. Best jeep I ever owned going back to 1996.

 

[CabinDweller392]

They're all great looking vehicles. I'm in the camp of thinking the 24 looks the best. That includes the grill and every single interior detail (red seats and all). I don't think there's been a better looking Jeep since the CJ7. I do however think the new wheels on the 24 are a let down. I much prefer the previous XR wheels.

Jeep, get it together and just make us all happy! Ha!

 

[Tunderhill]

They're all great looking vehicles. I'm in the camp of thinking the 24 looks the best. That includes the grill and every single interior detail (red seats and all). I don't think there's been a better looking Jeep since the CJ7. I do however think the new wheels on the 24 are a let down. I much prefer the previous XR wheels.

Jeep, get it together and just make us all happy! Ha!

I like the red interior. Why not go red? Is that the straw that breaks the 392 back? I’ve looked at the final edition and I love my 22XR more than my first born. Less than 20k miles on it. I couldn’t handle someone else driving it on a trade in or sale.