Tazer and Pedal Commander

[dblplay1212]

I've seen some talk in other threads about these 2 so figured I'd make a thread. Who has installed them? Any issues? Worth it? Talked to my shop about them and he was a little hesitant on the pedal commander bc he wasn't sure if it was optimized for the 392 yet. I moved to 37's and would like to get a little of the pep back that I lost. Don't get me wrong, it'll still go but I can feel the difference.

 

[Viking Jeeper]

I hope you get lots of responses. I dont have my 392 yet but I do have the Tazer waiting for it. No real performance improvements with that unless you could force 2wd but lots of settings in the vehicle I am looking forward to being able to change. I've been very surprised by the performance improvements people report with PC.

 

[BenLandry]

Myself and plenty others have both. I have 37s and I regeared to 4:56. The Tazer takes care of the recal. My speedO is dead on at all speeds, shifts very smooth. Does what it is really designed to do. Of course it has some other gadgets built in that are pretty cool. No one is going to use all of the things that the Tazer is capable of but everyone will use some of them. The mall crawlers are going to use the light shows, the rock crawlers might use the low gearing options or the fan options, the mudders might use the RPM option for the winch.
The PC just allows you to dial in how responsive you want your Jeep to be. If gives you the illusion that you have more power from line. You really don’t but the PC is allowing your throttle body to open quicker or slower based on your setting. Our Jeeps are absolute beast coming off the line, the PC just enhances that feeling. Neither of these add HP or tune your engine. The Livernois tune does tune, add HP and probably has accelerator firming capability and allows to delete speed limiter and 4cyl mode and calibrate gears and tires among other things, FYI

 

[22 392]

I think your wasting ur time and money on it personally. I am probably going with the Livernois tune to actually see some real gains.

 

[dblplay1212]

Myself and plenty others have both. I have 37s and I regeared to 4:56. The Tazer takes care of the recal. My speedO is dead on at all speeds, shifts very smooth. Does what it is really designed to do. Of course it has some other gadgets built in that are pretty cool. No one is going to use all of the things that the Tazer is capable of but everyone will use some of them. The mall crawlers are going to use the light shows, the rock crawlers might use the low gearing options or the fan options, the mudders might use the RPM option for the winch.
The PC just allows you to dial in how responsive you want your Jeep to be. If gives you the illusion that you have more power from line. You really don’t but the PC is allowing your throttle body to open quicker or slower based on your setting. Our Jeeps are absolute beast coming off the line, the PC just enhances that feeling. Neither of these add HP or tune your engine. The Livernois tune does tune, add HP and probably has accelerator firming capability and allows to delete speed limiter and 4cyl mode and calibrate gears and tires among other things, FYI

Thank you for all of this! Do either of these change the shift spots to account for the bigger tires/more weight? I have the XR package so already have the 4.56 gears.

 

[BenLandry]

It doesn’t change the shift points. Once it’s calibrated for larger tires the shift points are closer to stock

 

[dblplay1212]

Update on this...

I put 37s on my XR 2 days after getting it and it was pretty sluggish after doing so. The power was still there but there was a pretty big delay in taking off. Like I'd hit the gas, the engine would scream and the back would sit down but it just didn't take off like before. Wouldn't throw me back into the seat. It felt like a Jeep with a lot of power, not the race car I had originally. Well today we put the Tazer Mini on and adjusted the tire size and woo boy it's back. Massive seat of the pants difference. Not even going to put the Pedal Commander on just yet and going to roll with this.

If you're going to 37s, I highly suggest the Tazer.

 

[BenLandry]

Update on this...

I put 37s on my XR 2 days after getting it and it was pretty sluggish after doing so. The power was still there but there was a pretty big delay in taking off. Like I'd hit the gas, the engine would scream and the back would sit down but it just didn't take off like before. Wouldn't throw me back into the seat. It felt like a Jeep with a lot of power, not the race car I had originally. Well today we put the Tazer Mini on and adjusted the tire size and woo boy it's back. Massive seat of the pants difference. Not even going to put the Pedal Commander on just yet and going to roll with this.

If you're going to 37s, I highly suggest the Tazer.

The pedal commander will down right shock you then!

 

[Idaho392]

The pedal commander will down right shock you then!

Except full throttle is full throttle. The pedal commander can't change that. If you put the pedal to the floor as fast as possible, it's going to be the same.

 

[dblplay1212]

The pedal commander will down right shock you then!

lol I'm kinda scared

 

[dblplay1212]

Except full throttle is full throttle. The pedal commander can't change that. If you put the pedal to the floor as fast as possible, it's going to be the same.

There's still a small delay from hitting the gas to it launching. It just launches hard when it goes now. I think the PC could get rid of the small delay and have it still launch hard. I'll probably still do it at some point.

 

[Rscx4]

Except full throttle is full throttle. The pedal commander can't change that. If you put the pedal to the floor as fast as possible, it's going to be the same.

On drive by wire vehicles (ours), full throttle is a program of time to air-fuel input, full throttle is not full throttle until you've hit that time hack. The pedal commander will change that and lets you adjust as may be fit, it will make a huge difference.