Did you install these?
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RugbyRef
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Yes sir! Work great!
Dexterjeeper
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Finally put the bags in this past weekend. I followed your advice from the original post and let the bags expand and "mould" to the springs a bit before letting the Jeep back down. I also have a tip for getting those bags in. I found it very easy to pre-run the air line to both the bag and spacers then use a brake bleeder pump to pull all the air out first. From there, the bag is practically flat so you can fold it in half (long ways) and zip tie. Assuming the vehicle is lifted and suspension is drooped, the bags practically go right in. Once inside the springs, just cut the zip ties, position the bag near the top and add some air back to set their positions. Not sure if it's overkill but I used both the spacers.Yes, I have gone off road with the trailer & bags. It was not serious off road though; my trailer is not designed for trails with hills/mounds (the rear end of the trailer would bottom out), nor would I feel comfortable with the street tires as a rock could puncture them. However, if I had an off-road trailer, I would feel perfectly comfortable with the bags and would not haul anything over 100lbs tongue weight without them. (Wish I had an off the grid trail camper!) The bags are durable, just do not over inflate them keeping in mind that heat will add additional psi while also softening the bags. So, protect the bag closest to the exhaust pipe! I never go over 30psi, nor have I ever had to. Hauling 4,000 lbs. I'm usually around 24 psi.
The bags help so much! Even with nothing on the hitch I leave about 8psi in the bags. That gives the Jeep a slightly raked stance. I don't like the appearance that the front end appears/is a bit higher than the rear. It is a 'muscle' Jeep.
So far at 5-10 psi, I don't feel a difference ini ride quality at all (it's a great thing) and got an inch and a half back from the weight of all the AAL cargo management stuff. I also routed the air value inside the fuel door to protect from weather and for easy access. Very happy with the install so far!
Did you get the 60926 kit?
Dexterjeeper
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Yup, 60926. I think it fits my application perfectly.
Sorry to keep asking questions but did you use one or both of the spacers included?
Dexterjeeper
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No worries at all! I did end up using both spacers. Not sure if it's necessary but I kinda like the way the Jeep sits and rides right now. Would love to hear how your install goes.
I have a 60925 here and I cant decide if I want to use it or the 60926. From the manufactures website the 60926 seemed too big so I got the 60925. I know @justinB recommended the 60926 but he also said the 60925 worked for him. Their website also says both of those two are too large in diameter to fit. Obviously they will fit as both of you have done it but I wonder if pressing on the springs will cause early failure. There is some kind of warning about that in the instructions.
I have added a bit of weight to the back of the Jeep with muffler skid, AAL cargo shelf, larger spare, tailgate table etc. Need to get that back up.
Dexterjeeper
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I installed one that was too small in both diameter and length on my last Jeep and it didn't work out for me very well. Based on what JustinB said, the actual lift comes from the "bulge" between the springs. This makes a lot of sense to me and I have to say the 60926 leveled my current Jeep with just a few pounds above the minimum of 5psi--I practically maxed out the 35psi on my last Jeep and it barely did anything.
In terms of my load, I have a very similar setup as you. From time to time, I also pull a smittybilt scout around so I'm hopeful this setup will work better than the last. Worst case, I'm out $100 and I'll just get replacement bags that fits differently.
@Dexterjeeper what do you use to mount the jack on roll cage? (Have an ARB jack and need a solution)I installed one that was too small in both diameter and length on my last Jeep and it didn't work out for me very well. Based on what JustinB said, the actual lift comes from the "bulge" between the springs. This makes a lot of sense to me and I have to say the 60926 leveled my current Jeep with just a few pounds above the minimum of 5psi--I practically maxed out the 35psi on my last Jeep and it barely did anything.
In terms of my load, I have a very similar setup as you. From time to time, I also pull a smittybilt scout around so I'm hopeful this setup will work better than the last. Worst case, I'm out $100 and I'll just get replacement bags that fits differently.
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Dexterjeeper
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This is what I used for the hi-lift and my fire extinguisher. Not sure if it works with the ARB jack though.
Thank you
Thanks to everyone who reported and recommended the Air Lift part # 60926. At first I thought it was too big but I installed it today. Easy install and I am now level with 10 psi in the bags and a fair amount of weight added to the rear. Teraflex complete spare tire bracket/tailgate reinforcement, AAL cargo shelf, muffler skid and tailgate table were all dragging the ass end down. Raised the rear about 1.5 inches. I also used both spacers. Plumbed to a T behind the drivers tail light and installed Schrader valve in the fuel filler area.
Very important information.Here's a video on the subject of airbags vs WDH....
The Big 7 Misconceptions About Weight Distribution Hitches - Ask The RV Engineer
If you’ve read my article on the hidden danger of a weight-distribution hitch, you might be wondering what else you thought you knew that isn’t true! I’m a big fan of weight-distribution hitches. If you’re towing with a half-ton truck, I’m 99.5 percent positive you either need or could benefit...askthervengineer.com
Also, IMHO I would never ever use an app on a phone as a brake controller. When I'm towing and for whatever reason I need to apply a tad of trailer brake (weather cross-wind, going on a steep downhill grade, combo of both, etc), I always modulate the trailer brake with the lever on my Tekonsha controller.
On the Jeep I use a Redarc which has a similar design like the Mopar brand one.
In addition to the brake controller (with manual overdrive), I would never tow my approx. 3500 lbs 22' trailer without a sway and weight distribution hitch. It make a huge difference from keeping the rear level as well as controlling unwanted sway. I never had the need to use air bags.
My experience applies to my 13 JKRU and Nissan Pathfinder (2010) pulling an 22FB Airstream Sport in super long and super steep Arizona, Utah, and Colorado trails, but I intend to apply it to my 392.
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So, I finally went for this trailer. I haven't towed it with the 392, but it is married to my TJ Wrangler really well. Unbelievable how well it takes the trails. If my TJ has no trouble with it, I'm sure the 392 won't even know it's there. I'll post pics once I tow it with the 392.
Did you build it or buy it? Not judging, just like to look into it.
There is this great video showing the trailer in great detail. You can get it in a basic/blank form and upgrade it yourself, or have the company do it to the level it is shown in the video.
These guys are just down the coast from me, super light weight and lots of options.... I like the Fox coilovers and trailing arm suspension design
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