Sarge Green 392XR AEV JL370 Conversion

Anyone done anything cool (not on the outside of the Jeep) with their Badge of Honor badges?

I moved to a new house late last year, and some things are still boxed up. While in the basement looking through a box trying to find something else, I found my badges (along with 5 of the OG versions, which I never really cared for the look of as they were plasticky and had a lot of chrome on them).

Definitely not affixing them to the Jeep, as that is not my style. I thought about maybe affixing them to the side of my Dometic fridge or, when I get it, the back of the American Adventure Lab VersaTable. But, I would also be more than happy to just create some sort of small display for them in my office with a photo of the Jeep(s) I have earned them with.

Also, it kind of irks me that Poison Spider and Golden Spike are BoH trails, but not Gold Bar Rim (which is the third part of what has recently been dubbed "The Trifecta"). I've got a badge coming for Fins N Things, which I did during EJS with AEV on a night run, and I also noticed that they added Gulches in South Carolina to the list, which I completed in my old JKU Rubicon when I lived in GA, and I am certainly not about to drive back out there to horse around in an off-road park, so I may have found a way around doing that drive. :)

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I noticed in one of Trail Recons videos, he attached his badges to his Hot Headliner inside, with some other patches. Didn't look bad.
 
I noticed in one of Trail Recons videos, he attached his badges to his Hot Headliner inside, with some other patches. Didn't look bad.
Not a bad idea, although I have so many sewn patches from places I've visited in my various Jeeps that I like to stick on the headliner, that I'm not sure I'd want to do the same with the badges...

Acquiring large sheets of velcro from which to cut out backings for patches is also a PITA, though with the badges being so small, that might not be as much of a problem.

I saw one guy on the forums had attached magnets to his and stuck them to an ammo box. This might be a (non-permanent) way to attach them to the VersaTable or the Dometic fridge...
 
That shot with the B-52 almost makes me regret switching from Sarge to Sting...almost. :p

I love the wheels. If I went with an AEV build those would be the wheels I would get for sure. I like the way the Salta wheels look, but I don't think they have bead lock capability.
 
So, last week, Denver Auto Shield posted a writeup of the tint / PPF / ceramic coating job on the Jeep. The writeup is here and is cool, if you're interested in PPF / ceramic coat at the process... But the pictures are droolworthy (at least, to me 😅 ).

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Splitting the pics up into different posts due to forum limitations...
 
PPF / ceramic pics continued...

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Been a while and a bit since my last post, but I've been pretty busy as of late and haven't done much in the way of "fun Jeep things." However, I did go to Overland Expo West in Flagstaff, AZ a couple of weeks ago, and had a blast.

I ended up being invited by a friend that works for AEV to stay at the AirBnB they rented for the show, which was a welcome change of plans given the weather. I fought severe thunderstorms from my house in Colorado up until just outside of Winslow, Arizona where the weather decided to cooperate and allow me to enjoy a nice, cool evening. I even got to stand on a corner and take it easy. It was awesome staying with the AEV guys. I got to meet the owner of AEV, Dave Harriton and hang out with him a bit at the show and at the house / at dinner. Really awesome guy. He showed me some stuff that I promised to keep between us, but let's just say the Ranger Raptor isn't the only upcoming mid-size truck that will be able to do "Raptor things." Keep those eyes out for the new Colorado ZR2 Bison and the GMC AT4X AEV Edition... They're gonna eat.

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He wasn't quite tall enough for the photo op, but we made it work...

I got into Flagstaff on Wednesday night and, after doing a beer and snacks run to stock the fridge and pantry on the way, I met up with a couple of the guys from AEV at the AirBnB.

On Thursday morning, we packed up and headed to the fairgrounds to setup the AEV booth. It was really cool getting to see the PXL Tray Bed beast again after seeing it in Moab after the AEV customer tour, and it was just awesome to get to see the guys from AEV again and hang out in a more relaxed setting when they don't have to be "on" for a show or a tour.

Had to grab a nose-to-nose shot!

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It was pretty surreal driving into the Expo itself on setup day behind the PXL Tray Bed... My buddy at AEV that is responsible for the booth was going to see if we had room to fit my Jeep into the booth, but because they had requested to be next to the GMC booth, the space was smaller than expected and they couldn't get more than two vehicles into the space (and they already had Sean Holman's amazing "ADVJeep" 392 lined up for the booth). Sean's 392 being Firecracker Red with AEV Bronze Borah wheels really looked fantastic next to the PXL tray bed sporting the same color combo.

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I thought this was a neat picture, given the Sarge Green color and the signs on the building...

Honestly, my favorite thing at the show was the PXL Tray Bed. It is the perfect single guy's truck. If sexual energy was a truck, it would be the PXL Tray Bed. Massive 41.5" IROK tires, the proportions, everything. DROOL.

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However, aside from the Tray Bed, there was some really cool stuff at the show and I was really impressed by the new AEV'd GMC / Chevy offerings. They had the new Sierra HD 2500 AT4X AEV Edition and the Silverado ZR2 Bison at the show. The fit and finish of the AEV parts on those vehicles are heads and shoulders above what is being offered by the competition from factory off-road trucks, and more robust to boot. I saw the 2024 Tacoma Trailhunter at the show and, while I love ARB and the ARB bumper looks better than what Toyota has offered in the past (not saying much), the AEV bumpers on the GMC and Chevy trucks are just so much more integrated looking. And, in the days since Expo West, the new Colorado ZR2 Bison was announced with factory 35" tires! I know this forum is about Jeeps, but the mid-size truck market is on fire! The various Gladiators, the new Colorado ZR2 Bison, the upcoming GMC Canyon AT4X AEV Edition (which will also have factory 35" tires), the Ranger Raptor, and... I'm forgetting something... the Nissan Frontier PRO-4X! Oh, and I guess the new 2024 Tacoma which FINALLY has a fully-boxed chassis and FINALLY has ditched the drum brakes in the rear in favor of 4-wheel disc brakes, and has suspension seats that literally no one asked for, and doesn't have a V6 engine option, and will probably enter the market in "middle-place" once again because Toyota has gone from Legendary to "that'll do, Gary."

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Even the power port for the engine block heater is integrated into the bumper!

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Other than the PXL Tray Bed, I think this was likely the coolest rig at the show... Matt Scott (from Adventure Imports, Overland Kitted, and Overland Journal) brought out this AEV 570 (5.7L HEMI swapped) LJ he had recently acquired with 13,000 original miles and an undercarriage so clean you could have eaten off of it. All work had been done by AEV, including the powder coating and installation of parts they don't even sell. Wow. Spent some time chatting with Matt about the rig and catching up on other topics.

Then, there were the people. Honestly that's my favorite part of Overland Expo and other Jeep / off-road events. When you've been to enough of the events, you've kind of "seen it all" in terms of builds, from mild to wild. Every so many years, a new product will hit the market which are cool to see in person, but getting to see the people in this community and continue to develop relationships with these folks is what keeps me coming back. Shoutouts to Matt, Jeff, Eric, and Dave (yes, THAT Dave) for their amazing hospitality, inviting me to stay with them, and it was great to see folks like Justin Pitcairn, Nick Psomas, Brit Mansell, Marco Hernandez, Sean Holman, Jay "Lightning" Tiles, Matt Scott, Scott Brady, Caleb and Sam Wallace, and many others. If you've never been to an Overland Expo and have been interested in going or are interested in overlanding or just "fancy car camping," I would encourage you to put it on the calendar and go!

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It was great to share an ice cold Dr. Pepper with the hosts of America's best podcast, the Truck Show Podcast. Sean and I have met before and chat fairly regularly, but it was cool to meet Lightning and talk to him about some potential Banks Power additions to the 392 build.

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It was also great seeing Marco again and catching up with him. There are a lot of people with huge followings on YouTube and Instagram that, in-person, aren't at all the people the present themselves to be on the internet, but Marco is not one of those people, he's one of the most genuine, kind, and down to earth guys you'll meet.

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Was so great catching up with Caleb from Adventure Imports / Overland Kitted.

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Awesome to see Graeme from Go Fast Campers!
 
It's been a busy summer at work, so I haven't gotten the Jeep out nearly as much as I'd have liked, but I did get out on the Saints John / Deer Creek loop yesterday with a few friends. This is a loop that I've done many, many times, but never quite as fast as in the 392. We were moving!

The AEV suspension just soaked everything up, and although I knew my group of friends was each individually prepared and were well-versed on the trails, I had to slow myself down, or come to a complete stop and wait a handful of times, because I lost sight of them in my mirrors. The well-known FunTreks guidebook says Saints John (they rate "Difficult," which I disagree with) should take 2-3 hours, and that Deer Creek (they rate "Moderate") should take about 1.5 - 2 hours. We did the whole loop in about 2 hours and 45 minutes, including a ~15 minute stop at the Wild Irishman Mine and a ~45 minute stop around the General Teller Mine.

All in all, a great day with great friends!

I didn't take many pictures, but here are a few.

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A friend brought his new 20A 392 which still had paper plates. First one I have seen in person. The new grille looked better in-person than it does in pictures, but I still prefer the old style.

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I've been fortunate enough to encounter mountain goats every time I have driven these trails.

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If you see me in your rearview, take a cue from that classic Ludacris song :)


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We even let a Land Cruiser come with us...
 
AEV just released the video footage they put together of the Moab customer run. My 392 gets some camera time, including the closing shot!

 
Well, pickup day is getting closer!

My friends at AEV sent over these pictures today!

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Peek closely and you'll see the AEV springs and the Bilstein 8100s that are tuned for the spring rate.

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Rear suspension...

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That is a beautiful sight! I'm adding the EX bumper to my Sarge green XR shortly...doing my own AEV build of sorts.
 
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AEV Customer Run Day 1: Lockhart Basin

I'm breaking this writeup into two posts (day 1 and day 2), but the only way to describe this trip in a single word is "epic."

It was an early morning, as we were up before the sun and at the Spanish Trail Shell station south of town in Moab at 5:15AM for a drivers' meeting to go over the route, ground rules (spotters), etc.

We rolled out of the Shell station around 5:30AM and headed south on 191 toward 211. We hung a right onto 211 and headed west in the direction of Canyonlands National Park eventually hanging another right on Lockhart Road, which eventually intersects Lockhart Basin Road.

Once on Lockhart Road, we aired down and were treated to a stunning sunrise over the sheer red rock walls in the distance.

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Sarge green is right at home surrounded by the colors of the Utah desert.

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While airing down, AEV's videographer approached me about doing something special... More to come on that.

After we were all aired down, the convoy rolled out in search of our intersection for Lockhart Basin Road. The scenery, as always in Moab, was jaw dropping. The early morning sunlight playing all over the rock formations was a treat. Quite the sight to behold.

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Lockhart Road was a mix of hardpack dirt, some washboard, and whoops. The AEV suspension with the Bilstein 8100 reservoir shocks ate it all up. It also helps that I have refined and lightened my gear load over time. I actually brought more than I was planning to bring, as I was going to brew some fresh coffee for the group on Tuesday morning, but everything was still light and organized in my Zarges cases and Step 22 boxes / tool roll and fit neatly in the cargo area with the rear seats up, and a cargo strap over it all to keep it securely in place ensuring I didn't hear gear rattling or bouncing around in the back.

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As the convoy splintered off onto Lockhart Basin Road, the terrain became rockier and a little more technical, but nothing difficult - yet - just a little slower going. I dropped the transfer case into 4Hi and pushed the sway bar disconnect button to allow the front axle to articulate more and let the remote reservoir shocks up front eat up the terrain. Smooth sailing.

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Brian's AEV Hemi-swapped JKU 350 on 37s was super cool.

One thing that was really neat to me was seeing all of the various AEV rigs. There were JLUs, Colorado ZR2 Bisons, JKUs, and Gladiators. Such a treat to get to see and be part of that.

As we moved toward the intended camping spot, we took a couple of breaks from driving to stretch the legs and take in some scenery.

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Left to right: My buddy Zig's JKUR (homebuilt JK350 on 37s), my 392 JL370, Matt from AEV's JL370, and Rich Waitas's (from MagnaFlow) JL370. It was great seeing Matt in person again, and really nice finally meeting Rich in person after having interacted with him via Facebook for a while in the AEV group. It was also nice to meet John from AEV, who was riding along with Matt. He and I had some great conversations, as he rode with me a few times along the way.

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A wider angle of the convoy stopped to stretch the legs. Left to right: My 392 JL370, Matt Feldermann's (from AEV) JL370, Rich's JL370, Jackson Ellis's (from Glendale DCJR) 392 JL370, Nick Psoma's (from Peak Suspension) Colorado ZR2 Bison, Michale's Colorado ZR2 Bison, Brian's AEV Hemi-conversion JK350, Ben Hedrick's (from HEDRICK Speedsports) JL370, and Chris Wood's (from AEV) JL370.

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I was pretty impressed that the Overland Kitted Spare Tire Maxtrax mount did not budge an inch for the duration of the trip. I'm not really a fan of the hardware they provided to put the Maxtrax mount on the plate that interfaces with the spare tire, but I'll swap that out. The provided hardware uses Allen head bolts and nylock nuts, but the nylock nuts seem to seize up and Allen head bolts suck for things that need to be torqued down nice and tight. I'm going to swap to some stainless hex head bolts with lock washers instead of nylock nuts and see how that works out.

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Nick (middle), Michale, and Jackson climbing up the road.


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Rich and Matt following the convoy.

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Stopped for an early lunch.

Before lunch, the trail did get a little more technical but nothing the rigs couldn't easily handle. These Jeeps and Colorados on 35s and 37s with theAEV suspensions are just so capable, it takes a lot to slow them down. Once lunch wrapped up, the convoy got moving again and we continued in search of our intended camping location.

Just before 2PM, we arrived at what was supposed to be our camp location for the evening. Unfortunately, the location is pretty exposed and, while the temperature wasn't much of an issue (a little cool), the winds were howling and occasionally sandblasting us with dust and dirt (and the occasional small stone). AEV circled up the group and asked what we wanted to do: stay there, or press on down the trail to look for a less exposed location to camp (thus, pressing through into the sections of the trail that were supposed to be completed on day 2 of the trip). I pointed out that it was six in one, half dozen in the other, and chasing a better location might be a fool's errand. Ultimately, the majority of the customers voted to press on, so we did.

From there, things on the trail got more fun and technical. Some great little down hill sections as we descended into a small canyon to get to a lower bench in the basin below.

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Jackson spotting Chris down through a technical section.

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A great shot of me coming down the obstacle that Matt from AEV snapped.


Eventually, we were down on the bench below along the Colorado River, and the AEV trip leader asked again about staying here to camp. The other option, at this point, was returning to town. When polled, it seemed that about half of the customers in the group had back-up accommodations in town (*booooo* *hissssss*). The wind was still ripping and blowing dirt, dust, and sand around, and AEV then put the decision to a vote of their customers and said "we'll do whatever the majority of you want to do." I thought that was great of them, being willing to brave the weather if the vote favored doing so. Ultimately, the majority of the customers (not me and not Zig!!) voted to return to town. On our way back into town, I pointed out a few spots that we could camp in, in a last ditch effort to save camping for the night.

After arriving back in town, a few of us split off and went to a campground north of Moab to secure some camping spots, and then we headed to dinner where Matt and Jackson joined us. Matt from AEV then joined us at camp for the night. We shared some libations and some great conversation about AEV history and some of the cool rigs that have been built and used over the years, then hit the hay as we had to regroup at 7AM the next morning for the now updated second day of the trip.
Awesome stuff! How is your air filter holding up in the desert?
 
The beauty of the Mopar Performance Rock Rails is you can install them at 10:30 at night in your garage by yourself in 30 minutes, including cleaning the winter shit off the garage floor, remembering you have 3485902534589034 cardboard boxes and could have just laid one of those down on the ground instead of cleaning the floor, laying down said cardboard box, removing the factory Rubicon rails, and finding your 10mm socket.

I'll post a couple of pics shortly.

I finally got a warm enough day to install the 67 Designs Series 55 Rail base mount. It's about 51F outside and the garage is sitting at 63F... I can tell you what home improvement project I'm going to be doing before next winter. I miss my old insulated, heated garage.

Install was a breeze. This thing is stupid simple to install.

Nice pictures, dirty Jeep. Yes, I forgot to take some pictures of the rock rails when I was taking pictures of the 67D mount.

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Will aev remove the Rock grabbing bracket on passenger side in back of the front tire ?
 
Awesome stuff! How is your air filter holding up in the desert?

Haven't been on the forums in a while. I just replace it after trips like this. Only a few bucks.
 
Why no metalcloak parts? Just asking

I used MetalCloak parts on my old JKU. One of the motor mount brackets on their UnderCloak skid system was designed in a way that did not provide adequate clearance for normal movement of the motor on the mount bushings.

This bracket ended up wearing a hole in my upper engine oil pan - one of the parts of the Jeep the skid system was supposedly designed to protect - and I lost all of the oil out of my Jeep during a fuel stop in Dinosaur, CO in the middle of a weeklong expedition trip with friends. Luckily, I noticed the oil spill before I started the Jeep, or I would have had a catastrophic engine failure.

I called MetalCloak about the issue and they admitted that they knew about the problem, and had quietly redesigned the part to provide adequate clearance between the engine oil pan and the bracket. A part doesn't get redesigned for the fun of it. And, when a part has to be redesigned because it is causing catastrophic-level failures in peoples' vehicles, I feel a recall is in order.

MetalCloak has a presence on social media (including a Facebook page and an owners' group on Facebook) as well as Jeep forums, they also have the capability of taking website orders (which means they have some sort of invoicing and/or CRM system that would have order history information), and they put out an email newsletter. All of these are channels through which they could have informed affected customers of this issue and offered a replacement bracket BEFORE failure.

Almost 6 years later, this still infuriates me. A trip - an experience I can never get back, and vacation days I took from work - was effectively stolen from me. Had we not stopped for gas, this could have cost me (or, rather, MetalCloak) an engine and a very, very expensive tow. Had this happened overnight, it would have been a very expensive tow ($3,000 minimum) out of one of the most remote established campgrounds in the US. Had this happened to me, or anyone else, while they were out in their Jeep in a remote area alone, it could have cost someone their life.

Think about all the remote places we take our vehicles. While I don't often go out alone, I sometimes do, and many times I am without cellphone signal. If this had happened out in the middle of the desert with no cell reception for miles and miles, it could have been a life or death situation depending on level of preparedness. One thing this incident highlighted to me was the importance of a personal GPS device like a SPOT or a Garmin InReach.

MetalCloak did end up reimbursing me for my dealer to replace my engine oil pan, but only after I had to issue a legal threat. So while, in the end, MetalCloak made me whole, I feel like there should have absolutely been a recall when this known issue was resulting in engine oil pans being breached. Waiting for a failure to occur to replace a part works for some parts, when the failure does not result in an immobilized vehicle. But in this case? It's absolutely unacceptable. I even spoke to Matson directly about this, and a recall was never issued.

Contrast all of that to a company like AEV, that has issued a recall in the past (even when they weren't directly responsible for the issue) on a RAM part, because it was the right thing to do for their customers.
 
Will aev remove the Rock grabbing bracket on passenger side in back of the front tire ?

No. I had my local 4x4 shop remove it for me when they installed my Artec skid plates. You can also do it yourself, but it requires some elbow grease.
 
A fun little video segment I did with AEV on the Moab trip last year that just dropped on YouTube today...

 
Great video! Echos the feeling that myself and likely many others have as to why they chose AEV for their builds.
Thx for posting
 

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