Remove the oil filter drainer plastic thingy?

[stumblinhorse]

Now that I have learned the pointy plastic thing around the oil filter doesn’t help with the mess, I am thinking about removing it. Looks like it just needs a little snip at the top to come off. I am making a funnel with tube to catch all the oil and direct to a pan. That thing gets in the way of filter removal with the funnel in place.

Anyone remove it already? Think it serves any purpose?

 

[Viking Jeeper]

Following.

 

[CBH]

Now that I have learned the pointy plastic thing around the oil filter doesn’t help with the mess, I am thinking about removing it. Looks like it just needs a little snip at the top to come off. I am making a funnel with tube to catch all the oil and direct to a pan. That thing gets in the way of filter removal with the funnel in place.

Anyone remove it already? Think it serves any purpose?

I guess it’s been a while since I changed my own oil, because I have no idea to what "plastic pointy thing" you are referring.

 

[stumblinhorse]

I guess it’s been a while since I changed my own oil, because I have no idea to what "plastic pointy thing" you are referring.

Protruding from around the filter is a plastic drain triangle that is intended to direct the oil at a 45*, or so, angle.

 

[Viking Jeeper]

 

[CBH]

Protruding from around the filter is a plastic drain triangle that is intended to direct the oil at a 45*, or so, angle.

This I gotta see. We used to call that the “brother-in-law” effect, as in, some automobile designer has a brother-in-law who makes plastic pointy things so the faithful engineer incorporates it into the final design so we can ponder why it’s there.

 

[HearHear]

Can anyone recommend a tool to remove the standard 339 oil filter?

 

[stumblinhorse]

Can anyone recommend a tool to remove the standard 339 oil filter?

I used one that I already had, luckily it fit! it is a Hazet 2169 000.721.920.40. No idea the actual size….

 

[Shortcut]

Now that I have learned the pointy plastic thing around the oil filter doesn’t help with the mess, I am thinking about removing it. Looks like it just needs a little snip at the top to come off. I am making a funnel with tube to catch all the oil and direct to a pan. That thing gets in the way of filter removal with the funnel in place.

Anyone remove it already? Think it serves any purpose?

Okay... not sure what you're describing here.

 

[stumblinhorse]

Okay... not sure what you're describing here.

Pic in post 5 thanks to @Viking Jeeper

also that is a little different than my earlier build. But very similar.

 

[Shortcut]

Pic in post 5 thanks to @Viking Jeeper

Thanks... funny, my Jeep did not have that.

 

[stumblinhorse]

Thanks... funny, my Jeep did not have that.

Interesting, that answers my question. To quote a guy on Antiques Roadshow “it is as good as gone”

 

[Jeepstin392]

I thought the same thing when I did my oil. It helped to divert, but did not prevent a mess. The only consideration for removal is any concern for oil to get onto something it shouldn’t. The day I changed the oil, I had a number of other things to do and just did it quickly.

 

[Viking Jeeper]

I always loosen an oil filter until oil starts streaming out then let it controllably flow into the drain pan for several minutes before removing the filter.

 

[SCARd4Life]

Used this to remove the oil filter, which was not excessively tight from the factory:

Aain MKT02 Universal Oil Filter... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B094NXZHV9?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Removed the "thingy" during the first oil change. Not useful for directing oil anyways and it interferes with larger diameter filters, like the SRT MO-041, that i used.

Installed a Valvomax drain valve. This is my 6th Valvomax, so, yeah, I think they are amazing. No tools, eliminates mess, allows fine-tuning of oil level if you are OCD, gets rid of the potential to strip an oil pan drain bolt, etc. Some swear by the Fumoto, haven't done a side-by-side comparison:

ValvoMax Stainless Oil Drain... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077Z9GQCB?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

If you are changing to a larger diameter oil filter, here's a guide from the TRX forum:

*47* RAM TRX / HELLCAT OIL FILTERS CUT & COMPARED

To my knowledge this is the largest compilation of it’s kind as far as filters for this application. Obviously all of these fit the TRX as well as the Chargers, Challengers and even Hemi Rams (without EPS). This is not meant to be an argument for what’s best (although I’ve included a poll so you...

www.ram-trx.com

 

[Viking Jeeper]

Installed a Valvomax drain valve. This is my 6th Valvomax, so, yeah, I think they are amazing. No tools, eliminates mess, allows fine-tuning of oil level if you are OCD, gets rid of the potential to strip an oil pan drain bolt, etc. Some swear by the Fumoto, haven't done a side-by-side comparison:

ValvoMax Stainless Oil Drain... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077Z9GQCB?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

If you are changing to a larger diameter oil filter, here's a guide from the TRX forum:

*47* RAM TRX / HELLCAT OIL FILTERS CUT & COMPARED

To my knowledge this is the largest compilation of it’s kind as far as filters for this application. Obviously all of these fit the TRX as well as the Chargers, Challengers and even Hemi Rams (without EPS). This is not meant to be an argument for what’s best (although I’ve included a poll so you...

www.ram-trx.com

I've never used an oil drain valve. My thought had been there might be some oil left in the drain pan if the threads of the valve go too far in the pan. I do think the one you linked is the best design I have seen and the idea of easier changes, even parking lot changes when traveling is appealing.

 

[SCARd4Life]

I've never used an oil drain valve. My thought had been there might be some oil left in the drain pan if the threads of the valve go too far in the pan. I do think the one you linked is the best design I have seen and the idea of easier changes, even parking lot changes when traveling is appealing.

Your concern makes perfect sense. Great point! The Valvomax minimizes the thread length, but there will be some amount that it extends into the pan. With the angle on the 392 stamped steel pan drain, this will help to keep the trapped oil to a minimum. My OCD just got a kick in the pants; now I'm going to be jumping on the bumper to squeeze out the last bit of oil...

 

[Viking Jeeper]

Your concern makes perfect sense. Great point! The Valvomax minimizes the thread length, but there will be some amount that it extends into the pan. With the angle on the 392 stamped steel pan drain, this will help to keep the trapped oil to a minimum. My OCD just got a kick in the pants; now I'm going to be jumping on the bumper to squeeze out the last bit of oil...

Next time you do an oil change you could drain as usual then remove the valve to see how much more comes out.

 

[Viking Jeeper]

Installed a Valvomax drain valve. This is my 6th Valvomax, so, yeah, I think they are amazing. No tools, eliminates mess, allows fine-tuning of oil level if you are OCD, gets rid of the potential to strip an oil pan drain bolt, etc. Some swear by the Fumoto, haven't done a side-by-side comparison:

ValvoMax Stainless Oil Drain... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077Z9GQCB?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Is the M14 version the right one for 392 with later steel stamped oil pan?

 

[SCARd4Life]

Yes, it's the M14 x 1.50. Looks like a universal size across the JL, so I suspect, but can't confirm, that it would be the same for the aluminum pan, as well.