Need some product help

[Jeepn4x4]

Looking to add an oversize tire bracket to put on the factory tire carrier - anyone have the part #?

Also looking to do a platinum warm 12s winch - what components do I need to add this?

stinger - people mentioned a website can't think of the name I'll look

Lastly, anyone have photos of 37s on the stock wheels - I think I'm going to install those but can't decide if I should do 35s or 37s just want them now so when the jeep comes I'm ready to go

If I get 35s I'm installing Goodyear Duratraks or BFGs
if 37s either BFG or Mickey Thompson BAJA MTZ P3s

TIA

 

[Smess]

Looking to add an oversize tire bracket to put on the factory tire carrier - anyone have the part #?

Also looking to do a platinum warm 12s winch - what components do I need to add this?

stinger - people mentioned a website can't think of the name I'll look

Lastly, anyone have photos of 37s on the stock wheels - I think I'm going to install those but can't decide if I should do 35s or 37s just want them now so when the jeep comes I'm ready to go

If I get 35s I'm installing Goodyear Duratraks or BFGs
if 37s either BFG or Mickey Thompson BAJA MTZ P3s

TIA

37's are 12.5 wide and not safe to mount on stock 7.5 wide wheel

35's are also 12.5 but borderline, we all do it.

315 is slightly shorter and narrower but fits the wheel that's why Jeep is using the 315 on the stock wheel on the Recon

If you didn't get the tire carrier beef up as an option from the factory then you need:
Mopar 82215356 Tailgate Hinge Reinforcement Kit $659

If you are going to run 37's you need:
Mopar Oversized Tire Carrier + $289.99
Mopar 82215349 CHMSL Relocation Kit +$85.00

Hinger re-inforcement you have to do for any 35 if you didn't get the factory option.
If you do 37's then do all three

Guys on the forum are saying their reverse alarm is going off with the 35 spare without the Oversized Tire Carrier, mine is not and I have a Toyo which is a full 35. The reverse alarms have been quirky on 392's in general

Mickey p3's are yesterdays news, the Baja Boss is the new kid on the block and is in a different league then the other two you named.

Maximus-3 winch plate is the best, it makes the 12s sit further forward so the winch power and ground wires don't rub on the grill

Maximus also make a nice stinger and their bars are 1/2 inch thicker than competitors and are bolt on to 392 bumper
Warn 12s is self explanatory with the winch plate I just mentioned

search for my threads and you can see pics of 37's that you aren't doing so don't waste your time

And if you change your mind on the Fuel Rebel 20's and Nittos you wanted let me know and I will tell you where you can get them. They won't be mounted and balanced and shipped that way. Tires are so scarce you are lucky to get them right now.

Mickey Baja just hit the ground or that old p3 is probably on clearance somewhere.

Finally, if you want one guy to call that has all that in stock, and there is probably only one that has all of it as many will be hard to find right now, let me know and I will lead you in the right direction.

Pictured below are twin White 392's, one taken at night is 35x12.5 Toyo on AEV Borah 17x8.5 with stock tire carrier (third brake light lifted) and one taken in showroom is 35x12.5 Toyo on Fuel 18x9 with full Mopar kit. Both came factory with the Hinge re-inforcement.

Your looking at a $1000 just to have a 37 spare so either do it all from the get go or wait till you wear out those 17's on the stock wheel.

Tazer mini $329 and a pedal commander $299, both on Amazon, and you will have what you need to re-calibrate the speedo, set some very needed custom settings, and smoke the rear tires and really enjoy that beast. Works beautiful with the 35, 37 is a lot more tire to move.

Good luck

 

[BenLandry]

37's are 12.5 wide and not safe to mount on stock 7.5 wide wheel

35's are also 12.5 but borderline, we all do it.

315 is slightly shorter and narrower but fits the wheel that's why Jeep is using the 315 on the stock wheel on the Recon

If you didn't get the tire carrier beef up as an option from the factory then you need:
Mopar 82215356 Tailgate Hinge Reinforcement Kit $659

If you are going to run 37's you need:
Mopar Oversized Tire Carrier + $289.99
Mopar 82215349 CHMSL Relocation Kit +$85.00

Hinger re-inforcement you have to do for any 35 if you didn't get the factory option.
If you do 37's then do all three

Guys on the forum are saying their reverse alarm is going off with the 35 spare without the Oversized Tire Carrier, mine is not and I have a Toyo which is a full 35. The reverse alarms have been quirky on 392's in general

Mickey p3's are yesterdays news, the Baja Boss is the new kid on the block and is in a different league then the other two you named.

Maximus-3 winch plate is the best, it makes the 12s sit further forward so the winch power and ground wires don't rub on the grill

Maximus also make a nice stinger and their bars are 1/2 inch thicker than competitors and are bolt on to 392 bumper
Warn 12s is self explanatory with the winch plate I just mentioned

search for my threads and you can see pics of 37's that you aren't doing so don't waste your time

And if you change your mind on the Fuel Rebel 20's and Nittos you wanted let me know and I will tell you where you can get them. They won't be mounted and balanced and shipped that way. Tires are so scarce you are lucky to get them right now.

Mickey Baja just hit the ground or that old p3 is probably on clearance somewhere.

Finally, if you want one guy to call that has all that in stock, and there is probably only one that has all of it as many will be hard to find right now, let me know and I will lead you in the right direction.

Pictured below are twin White 392's, one taken at night is 35x12.5 Toyo on AEV Borah 17x8.5 with stock tire carrier (third brake light lifted) and one taken in showroom is 35x12.5 Toyo on Fuel 18x9 with full Mopar kit. Both came factory with the Hinge re-inforcement.

Your looking at a $1000 just to have a 37 spare so either do it all from the get go or wait till you wear out those 17's on the stock wheel.

Tazer mini $329 and a pedal commander $299, both on Amazon, and you will have what you need to re-calibrate the speedo, set some very needed custom settings, and smoke the rear tires and really enjoy that beast. Works beautiful with the 35, 37 is a lot more tire to move.

Good luck

I agree with all of that…my 392 came with the tailgate reinforcement. I added the Teraflex HD tire relocation bracket for my 37x13.5. It has a cool 3rd brake light and reverse camera relocation bracket. I also have a Taser and about to order a pedal commander. These are Rebel 20x10-18 offset

 

[Smess]

I agree with all of that…my 392 came with the tailgate reinforcement. I added the Teraflex HD tire relocation bracket for my 37x13.5. It has a cool 3rd brake light and reverse camera relocation bracket. I also have a Taser and about to order a pedal commander. These are Rebel 20x10-18 offset

You are going to be shocked at the new 392 you get when you install the pedal commander. I have owned several vehicles with them but what it did to the 392 is unreal. It will be the best $299 you spent on the Jeep.

Cant wait for your reaction. Set the Tazer to 2wd and run Sport+ +1 and when you are in AWD run it at Sport 0. Those are the sweet spots, anything over Sport +1 and its retarted and over Sport 0 in AWD you might possibly risk breaking stuff.

The sound difference alone is going to make you very happy.

Power everywhere and you are not going to know those 37's are even on there.

Does the 20 ride and handle well?

Enjoy and be safe

 

[switz]

You are going to be shocked at the new 392 you get when you install the pedal commander. I have owned several vehicles with them but what it did to the 392 is unreal. It will be the best $299 you spent on the Jeep.

Cant wait for your reaction. Set the Tazer to 2wd and run Sport+ +1 and when you are in AWD run it at Sport 0. Those are the sweet spots, anything over Sport +1 and its retarted and over Sport 0 in AWD you might possibly risk breaking stuff.

The sound difference alone is going to make you very happy.

Power everywhere and you are not going to know those 37's are even on there.

Does the 20 ride and handle well?

Enjoy and be safe

I was trying to get some confirmation that the Tazer does indeed remove the all-wheel-drive and put it to rear-only drive? Is this correct? And, do you have to keep the tazer connected at all times or can you program it and remove it? Thanks

 

[cgr]

I do not want to hijack this post but have two questions about what has already been mentioned. First - pedal commander - I am definitely interested in this but their website does not give a hemi engine option, does this matter, do we order the 3.6 version? Second - the backup sensors are acting up for me as well, but I have the relocation bracket (running 37's). Is this a sensor issue/problem that needs to be repaired? Thanks for the info!
Chris

 

[DavyBoy]

I do not want to hijack this post but have two questions about what has already been mentioned. First - pedal commander - I am definitely interested in this but their website does not give a hemi engine option, does this matter, do we order the 3.6 version? Second - the backup sensors are acting up for me as well, but I have the relocation bracket (running 37's). Is this a sensor issue/problem that needs to be repaired? Thanks for the info!
Chris

I have 35's on a 17x9.5" XD-Rockstar Wheel . When I first mounted the spare, my passenger's side sensor went off constantly. So, I installed the Mopar spare tire lift kit that moved the tire up about 1.5 - 2". The sensor stopped going off all the time. Now my driver's side sensor occasionally goes off for no apparent reason. Most of the time the sensors seem to be working properly, but still act flaky at times. I think there is a sensor issue that Jeep needs to fix (probably with software), that is also affected by the spare location. I believe Terraflex has a spare lift kit that will give you much more lift to accommodate your 37s.

I am also interested in Pedal Commander, but concerned anything that changes the Engine, etc. settings could be a warranty problem down the road. Maybe someone else can commit on that.....

 

[DavyBoy]

37's are 12.5 wide and not safe to mount on stock 7.5 wide wheel

35's are also 12.5 but borderline, we all do it.

315 is slightly shorter and narrower but fits the wheel that's why Jeep is using the 315 on the stock wheel on the Recon

If you didn't get the tire carrier beef up as an option from the factory then you need:
Mopar 82215356 Tailgate Hinge Reinforcement Kit $659

If you are going to run 37's you need:
Mopar Oversized Tire Carrier + $289.99
Mopar 82215349 CHMSL Relocation Kit +$85.00

Hinger re-inforcement you have to do for any 35 if you didn't get the factory option.
If you do 37's then do all three

Guys on the forum are saying their reverse alarm is going off with the 35 spare without the Oversized Tire Carrier, mine is not and I have a Toyo which is a full 35. The reverse alarms have been quirky on 392's in general

Mickey p3's are yesterdays news, the Baja Boss is the new kid on the block and is in a different league then the other two you named.

Maximus-3 winch plate is the best, it makes the 12s sit further forward so the winch power and ground wires don't rub on the grill

Maximus also make a nice stinger and their bars are 1/2 inch thicker than competitors and are bolt on to 392 bumper
Warn 12s is self explanatory with the winch plate I just mentioned

search for my threads and you can see pics of 37's that you aren't doing so don't waste your time

And if you change your mind on the Fuel Rebel 20's and Nittos you wanted let me know and I will tell you where you can get them. They won't be mounted and balanced and shipped that way. Tires are so scarce you are lucky to get them right now.

Mickey Baja just hit the ground or that old p3 is probably on clearance somewhere.

Finally, if you want one guy to call that has all that in stock, and there is probably only one that has all of it as many will be hard to find right now, let me know and I will lead you in the right direction.

Pictured below are twin White 392's, one taken at night is 35x12.5 Toyo on AEV Borah 17x8.5 with stock tire carrier (third brake light lifted) and one taken in showroom is 35x12.5 Toyo on Fuel 18x9 with full Mopar kit. Both came factory with the Hinge re-inforcement.

Your looking at a $1000 just to have a 37 spare so either do it all from the get go or wait till you wear out those 17's on the stock wheel.

Tazer mini $329 and a pedal commander $299, both on Amazon, and you will have what you need to re-calibrate the speedo, set some very needed custom settings, and smoke the rear tires and really enjoy that beast. Works beautiful with the 35, 37 is a lot more tire to move.

Good luck

I agree with Smess on the Maximus-3 winch plate kit and stinger bar. I installed both on my 392 with a warn EVO 12s winch. Very happy with the results.

 

[BenLandry]

Does the 20 ride and handle well?

Enjoy and be safe

Can’t wait, 20s are fine, I live near Houston, I don’t do much rock crawling, mainly sand and mud and malls…I got a quote from my shop about a regear to 4:56. I was on the fence until the Recon showed up, now I’m for sure going to do it at some point. Just waiting for some other Joe to do it first to make sure it fits. I had a PC on my 2013 supercharged JK. It was a manual, so much fun to drive. That is until the 392 arrived.

 

[BenLandry]

I was trying to get some confirmation that the Tazer does indeed remove the all-wheel-drive and put it to rear-only drive? Is this correct? And, do you have to keep the tazer connected at all times or can you program it and remove it? Thanks

I bought the extended cable with the JL MINI. I don’t have giant hands but it is a very tight spot to unplug and plug into. With the extension cable you will only have to suffer through that once as long as you connect the cable the right way the first time( I got that tshirt). Certain functions only work with the tazer connected. Other functions like tire size saves on the Jeep and you don’t need to have it connected. It does force RWD and the Jeep will stay in which ever mode you have it in when you kill then restart. Dozens of functions…I like the 2 button press to raise RPMs while winching. I told my dealer service manager about it and he absolutely doesn’t care about it. Obviously if it caused a problem he might care but he told me not to disconnect when I brought it for CarPlay and reverse lines issues

 

[Jeepn4x4]

37's are 12.5 wide and not safe to mount on stock 7.5 wide wheel

35's are also 12.5 but borderline, we all do it.

315 is slightly shorter and narrower but fits the wheel that's why Jeep is using the 315 on the stock wheel on the Recon

If you didn't get the tire carrier beef up as an option from the factory then you need:
Mopar 82215356 Tailgate Hinge Reinforcement Kit $659

If you are going to run 37's you need:
Mopar Oversized Tire Carrier + $289.99
Mopar 82215349 CHMSL Relocation Kit +$85.00

Hinger re-inforcement you have to do for any 35 if you didn't get the factory option.
If you do 37's then do all three

Guys on the forum are saying their reverse alarm is going off with the 35 spare without the Oversized Tire Carrier, mine is not and I have a Toyo which is a full 35. The reverse alarms have been quirky on 392's in general

Mickey p3's are yesterdays news, the Baja Boss is the new kid on the block and is in a different league then the other two you named.

Maximus-3 winch plate is
the best, it makes the 12s sit further forward so the winch power and ground wires don't rub on the grill

Maximus also make a nice stinger and their bars are 1/2 inch thicker than competitors and are bolt on to 392 bumper
Warn 12s is self explanatory with the winch plate I just mentioned

search for my threads and you can see pics of 37's that you aren't doing so don't waste your time

And if you change your mind on the Fuel Rebel 20's and Nittos you wanted let me know and I will tell you where you can get them. They won't be mounted and balanced and shipped that way. Tires are so scarce you are lucky to get them right now.

Mickey Baja just hit the ground or that old p3 is probably on clearance somewhere.

Finally, if you want one guy to call that has all that in stock, and there is probably only one that has all of it as many will be hard to find right now, let me know and I will lead you in the right direction.

Pictured below are twin White 392's, one taken at night is 35x12.5 Toyo on AEV Borah 17x8.5 with stock tire carrier (third brake light lifted) and one taken in showroom is 35x12.5 Toyo on Fuel 18x9 with full Mopar kit. Both came factory with the Hinge re-inforcement.

Your looking at a $1000 just to have a 37 spare so either do it all from the get go or wait till you wear out those 17's on the stock wheel.

Tazer mini $329 and a pedal commander $299, both on Amazon, and you will have what you need to re-calibrate the speedo, set some very needed custom settings, and smoke the rear tires and really enjoy that beast. Works beautiful with the 35, 37 is a lot more tire to move.

Good luck

Wow, talk about incredible response and being helpful. thank you

Am running 37s on the factory wheel for now just ordered BFG KM3s got them right before the price went up 68$ per tire overnight lol $2272 otd

Did order jeep with reinforced tire carrier so will add the oversize tire carrier items you mentioned
Mopar Oversized Tire Carrier + $289.99
Mopar 82215349 CHMSL Relocation Kit +$85.00

will order those maximus parts for the winch and stinger - today ordering

Ok so taser mini and pedal commander didn't even know about them but will order them as well.

 

[Smess]

I do not want to hijack this post but have two questions about what has already been mentioned. First - pedal commander - I am definitely interested in this but their website does not give a hemi engine option, does this matter, do we order the 3.6 version? Second - the backup sensors are acting up for me as well, but I have the relocation bracket (running 37's). Is this a sensor issue/problem that needs to be repaired? Thanks for the info!
Chris

PC78 it goes by year make and model not motor but 6.4 is now listed

 

[Smess]

I bought the extended cable with the JL MINI. I don’t have giant hands but it is a very tight spot to unplug and plug into. With the extension cable you will only have to suffer through that once as long as you connect the cable the right way the first time( I got that tshirt). Certain functions only work with the tazer connected. Other functions like tire size saves on the Jeep and you don’t need to have it connected. It does force RWD and the Jeep will stay in which ever mode you have it in when you kill then restart. Dozens of functions…I like the 2 button press to raise RPMs while winching. I told my dealer service manager about it and he absolutely doesn’t care about it. Obviously if it caused a problem he might care but he told me not to disconnect when I brought it for CarPlay and reverse lines issues

OMG the harness should be included, problem is they put the release on the far side instead of the close side so you are trying to squeeze the release and pull out the plug at the same time. If it was on the near side you could use your right hand thumb and piece of cake, but instead you tear up your hands working up in there and it take a miracle to get it the first three tries.

My favorite is in motion where opening the drivers door does not throw you in to the windshield and destroy your tranny but zauto swears that feature has nothing to do with them its only for nav input.

Dont worry I am not going to sue.

 

[BenLandry]

OMG the harness should be included, problem is they put the release on the far side instead of the close side so you are trying to squeeze the release and pull out the plug at the same time. If it was on the near side you could use your right hand thumb and piece of cake, but instead you tear up your hands working up in there and it take a miracle to get it the first three tries.

My favorite is in motion where opening the drivers door does not throw you in to the windshield and destroy your tranny but zauto swears that feature has nothing to do with them its only for nav input.

Dont worry I am not going to sue.

Yep, my hands were bleeding both times I did it….only because I put the frickin cable backwards the first time. I’m a dumbass… with a badass 392

 

[Shortcut]

Looking to add an oversize tire bracket to put on the factory tire carrier - anyone have the part #?

Also looking to do a platinum warm 12s winch - what components do I need to add this?

stinger - people mentioned a website can't think of the name I'll look

Lastly, anyone have photos of 37s on the stock wheels - I think I'm going to install those but can't decide if I should do 35s or 37s just want them now so when the jeep comes I'm ready to go

If I get 35s I'm installing Goodyear Duratraks or BFGs
if 37s either BFG or Mickey Thompson BAJA MTZ P3s

TIA

I found that moparonlineparts.com has the best prices for factory Mopar stuff, way better than the dealerships and even though they are located in NY I get my orders in about a week coming to Arizona.

Here is what I recommend for your spare tire relocation project for which the Tailgate Reinforcement Kit is required if you don't already have it on your vehicle:

Authentic Mopar Oversize Spare Tire Carrier Modification Kit; SKU 82215355; $238.96 plus shipping & Tax
Authentic Mopar CHMSL (brakelight) Relocation Kit; SKU 82215349AB: $69.60 Plus Shipping & Tax

I did not need to use the extra spacers that came with the kit, the 37" BFG KM3 on 17x8.5 Hutchinson RockMonster wheels fit just fine with the basic relocation adapter pieces parts.

For the Winch:
Authentic Mopar Winch Mounting Kit; SKU 82215182AC; $417.60 Plus Shipping & Tax. Very robust & Complete kit with all that you need except the fairlead adapter plate.
Authentic Mopar Winch Fairlead Adapter Plate CENTERED Winch & Fairlead; SKU 82215528AB; $37.12 Plus Shipping & Tax. There is a different adapter plate for an off-center winch and fairlead installation not sure which one will work for your winch.

Compare these prices with the dealer's you should be surprised at the difference.

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[BenLandry]

You are going to be shocked at the new 392 you get when you install the pedal commander. I have owned several vehicles with them but what it did to the 392 is unreal. It will be the best $299 you spent on the Jeep.

Cant wait for your reaction. Set the Tazer to 2wd and run Sport+ +1 and when you are in AWD run it at Sport 0. Those are the sweet spots, anything over Sport +1 and its retarted and over Sport 0 in AWD you might possibly risk breaking stuff.

The sound difference alone is going to make you very happy.

Power everywhere and you are not going to know those 37's are even on there.

Does the 20 ride and handle well?

Enjoy and be safe

I set up my Pedal Commander last night, went right to sport 0, holy shit….I mean it absolutely jumps off the line and I haven’t really tried all that hard yet. I haven’t tried going to 2wd with the Tazer yet because it won’t quit raining here, I hate to ruin brand new 37s because I’m fairly certain there is no possible way to keep it from spinning with the pedal commander, or stock for that matter on wet roads.

 

[Shortcut]

I set up my Pedal Commander last night, went right to sport 0, holy shit….I mean it absolutely jumps off the line and I haven’t really tried all that hard yet. I haven’t tried going to 2wd with the Tazer yet because it won’t quit raining here, I hate to ruin brand new 37s because I’m fairly certain there is no possible way to keep it from spinning with the pedal commander, or stock for that matter on wet roads.

Okay guys, I went to the Pedal Commander website, punched in my make, year & model but there was no option for the 392 Wranger engine. Only the 2.0, 3.0 & 3.6 were available in the dropdown menu. Where did you find your pedal commanders?

 

[grim]

Okay guys, I went to the Pedal Commander website, punched in my make, year & model but there was no option for the 392 Wranger engine. Only the 2.0, 3.0 & 3.6 were available in the dropdown menu. Where did you find your pedal commanders?

I did the same thing this past week and then emailed customer service who told me and I quote…Based on your request, we would like to inform you that our PC78 Pedal Commander will be compatible with your 2021 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon 392 6.4L. Our Pedal Commander PC78 outfits all Jeep Wrangler JL trim models with years 2018+ for engine sizes: 2.0L 3.0L 3.6L 6.4L.”

 

[Shortcut]

I did the same thing this past week and then emailed customer service who told me and I quote…Based on your request, we would like to inform you that our PC78 Pedal Commander will be compatible with your 2021 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon 392 6.4L. Our Pedal Commander PC78 outfits all Jeep Wrangler JL trim models with years 2018+ for engine sizes: 2.0L 3.0L 3.6L 6.4L.”

Thank you!!

 

[Shortcut]

I just ordered the PC78 for my 392 and at check out an offer to share a discount code with others appeared so I copied the link for $30 off orders of $250 or more. Here is the link for the discount if anyone is interested https://loox.io/z/E1W8GeX6c Should anyone be successful in using the discount please post up and tell us about the experience.