MSRP Increase Again?

[agjr200hp]

My 392 has been sitting in inspection for almost 4 weeks now ("I" status) and I just asked my dealer for an update. When the update came, the MSRP went up by exactly $2,500.

I got my order in days after the first one this year back in January.

 

[Blankman]

What dealer?

 

[agjr200hp]

What dealer?

Chapman in PA. The jeep hasn't been invoiced yet so the MSRP is coming from Jeep, not the dealer.

 

[Blankman]

Chapman in PA. The jeep hasn't been invoiced yet so the MSRP is coming from Jeep, not the dealer.

I was hoping you weren’t going to say them. I picked mine up from them, the price was amazing the service was ok. It was delivered full of scratches, I didn’t have the time to have them fix it so I had to deal with it back home. Im not sure when you ordered but they stopped offering price protection unfortunately.

 

[Dral97]

Do they have you sign an invoice when you place an order with them?

 

[Viking Jeeper]

There is a certain part of the process where the price is fixed by Jeep, just not sure when that is. There was a price increase 2-3 weeks before mine was delivered but it did not affect me.

 

[drummr25]

So I just found out that mine went from "D" status to "D1" after a bit over 3mos. Does this mean that my dealer could potentially increase the price of mine as well since it's nowhere close to being invoiced & delivered to the dealer?

 

[TeufelHunden]

So I just found out that mine went from "D" status to "D1" after a bit over 3mos. Does this mean that my dealer could potentially increase the price of mine as well since it's nowhere close to being invoiced & delivered to the dealer?

Once you receive your VIN and VON you should be locked in. I was

 

[Fast-n-Furious]

So I just found out that mine went from "D" status to "D1" after a bit over 3mos. Does this mean that my dealer could potentially increase the price of mine as well since it's nowhere close to being invoiced & delivered to the dealer?

It all depends on the dealer. In my case, there was a price increase before I took ownership and the dealer didn't say a word. Because we signed the purchase contract when I placed the order.

 

[Dral97]

It all depends on the dealer. In my case, there was a price increase before I took ownership and the dealer didn't say a word. Because we signed the purchase contract when I placed the order.

Same here. That's why I had asked the OP about that earlier. I have a document clearly stating final price (with Taxes, fees, tags, and everything figured in) that I signed before my order was even placed.

That was my mistake with the pos Ford dealer that screwed me over. 'Gentleman's agreement'. I wish I could go back in time and punch myself in the head for agreeing to that one.

 

[Fast-n-Furious]

Same here. That's why I had asked the OP about that earlier. I have a document clearly stating final price (with Taxes, fees, tags, and everything figured in) that I signed before my order was even placed.

That was my mistake with the pos Ford dealer that screwed me over. 'Gentleman's agreement'. I wish I could go back in time and punch myself in the head for agreeing to that one.

I'll say that's not your fault. As consumers, we can't prepare for those unpredictable changes. That's why I don't trust dealers, especially those salesmen or sales managers that don't sound like honest when I meet them in person.
I went with a small local dealer which has a very good reputation, and their president even invited me to test drive his 2021 392 before I ordered. I got my VIN and VON the next day. I also asked for POC later and they just sent to me without asking any questions. I also had my trade-in value stated on the purchase agreement. And I had my 392 delivered 3 months after order placed, no drama at all. I knew I didn't get the best deal since I got it for 2K below MSRP. I would have saved a few more thousands with out of state purchase by driving a few more hours. I didn't want to risk the hassle at all and I'm happy about the dealer and my experience.

 

[agjr200hp]

In my case, they were upfront with me and said the msrp can change and they do not offer price protection any more as Jeep's msrp is a moving target. I don't blame the dealer (my deal is a % off MSRP) and if Stellaris charges them more than when i ordered it, why shouldn't they be able to pass that along. My deal is in writing but in reality it was based off of a number that didn't exist yet.

My issue is that this is the second price increase (one in January and one in June) which amounts to over $5,000 more than what it was when i first started. If it didn't take so long to build, might have been a non-issue.

The final msrp will be known at the time of invoicing the dealer for the vehicle which happens to be just AFTER the step that i am on (final inspection).

I have to stay positive, my purchase priced will still be under MSRP when some folks are paying $10,000 + over MSRP.

 

[Blankman]

In my case, they were upfront with me and said the msrp can change and they do not offer price protection any more as Jeep's msrp is a moving target. I don't blame the dealer (my deal is a % off MSRP) and if Stellaris charges them more than when i ordered it, why shouldn't they be able to pass that along. My deal is in writing but in reality it was based off of a number that didn't exist yet.

My issue is that this is the second price increase (one in January and one in June) which amounts to over $5,000 more than what it was when i first started. If it didn't take so long to build, might have been a non-issue.

The final msrp will be known at the time of invoicing the dealer for the vehicle which happens to be just AFTER the step that i am on (final inspection).

I have to stay positive, my purchase priced will still be under MSRP when some folks are paying $10,000 + over MSRP.

I know on the JL forum Tom said he would still file for the price protection and if FCA honored it he would cut a check to the buyer. Keep that in mind and definitely ask about it.

 

[Jeepstin392]

If you have signed paperwork with the price shown, that’s what you should pay.
This also happened to me. From time of order to delivery, the MSRP went up $1,000.
They had to honor the original price. And they did ask me to produce the signed paperwork. When I did, they honored it and had today the $1,000.

 

[Blankman]

If you have signed paperwork with the price shown, that’s what you should pay.
This also happened to me. From time of order to delivery, the MSRP went up $1,000.
They had to honor the original price. And they did ask me to produce the signed paperwork. When I did, they honored it and had today the $1,000.

It says on the poc that the price can change and they’re very upfront about not being able to do price protection.

 

[KungFu392]

If you have signed paperwork with the price shown, that’s what you should pay.
This also happened to me. From time of order to delivery, the MSRP went up $1,000.
They had to honor the original price. And they did ask me to produce the signed paperwork. When I did, they honored it and had today the $1,000.

My dealer didn't even mention the price increase even though the sticker showed a $2k price increase over my order amount. I actually brought it up to them at the end of the deal THANKING my sales guy for keeping their word without even bringing up. He said something to the effect of "that's just how we do business here." This was my first purchase from them and I told them it will not be my last based upon my experience with them. BUT - To your point @Jeepstin392 I DID have a signed order with my original price on it. That's how they secure special orders at my dealer. I recommend getting that from any dealer, especially if you put down a deposit. That creates an enforceable contract (don't ask me how I know... I am not offering free legal advice here).

 

[Jeepstin392]

It says on the poc that the price can change and they’re very upfront about not being able to do price protection.

That sucks
Either my dealer wasn’t that savvy or they changed their policy.
My dealer also was acquired by another company in the time from deposit to delivery. I wonder if that worked in my favor?

 

[Uncommon Sense]

If I am not mistaken, if you have a sold order, the price is automatically protected. MSRP went up on mine after I ordered it and Granger honored the original MSRP price at the time of order. I never even asked about it.

 

[Blankman]

That sucks
Either my dealer wasn’t that savvy or they changed their policy.
My dealer also was acquired by another company in the time from deposit to delivery. I wonder if that worked in my favor?

It’s more or less FCA. They weren’t reimbursing Chapman for the price protection and they had to eat the 6 figure bill. FCA is shady about taking care of their dealers and that creates shady dealerships. Chapman also got in hot water with FCA offering additional % off fpp pricing another 6 figure bill they had to eat.

 

[KungFu392]

If I am not mistaken, if you have a sold order, the price is automatically protected. MSRP went up on mine after I ordered it and Granger honored the original MSRP price at the time of order. I never even asked about it.

That was my understanding as well, but there have been people on this forum and others who are disputing that, particularly with respect to certain dealers (Chapmans). I happen to have an order in at Chapmans, so I am prepared to fight if necessary.