More driving impressions..... for those still waiting.

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This thing is an absolute monster. I got up to 500 miles today and according to the break in can do some brief full throttle runs. Rolling into the throttle as you are turning out, it feels like you need to be careful. I have only applied full t.hrottle while going in a straight line. It rips through the gears and really does sound like a race car. Shifts are reasonably firm and fast. Going straight and flooring it from 30mph, the front end lifts, rear squats, feels a little squirrely. 70 mph arrives in a flash. Can't stay in the pedal for long. This is the first vehicle (and I can't believe I am saying this......) that I have owned that has enough power. I've always wanted more in my mustangs. even superchargers and turbos were not enough. Wanted to tune my mercedes s65 as if that thing needed more power. Those can be had for cheap, but heaven forbid if anything breaks.

The 392 feels like it has enough power. Squeezing the pedal unleashes an avalanche of torque at low rpm and it rips all the way to redline. Feels like a pretty flat torque curve to me. I'll report back in a couple months as I get used to it and may find myself longing for more, but not right now. It is so hard to drive this thing slow. When cruising, my foot is barely in the gas pedal. Feels like only pushing it down 1/4" or less to go 50 mph, but it is not super sensitive and easy to modulate. No jack rabbit starts if you are trying to take off normally. Maybe throttle is calibrated to be more sensitive the faster you are going. Will do some more research on this.

For pedal commander owners, does the increased sensitivity of the pedal, make it even harder to drive at low to moderate speeds at stead state? At this point, I see no need for a pedal commander and am enjoying part throttle pulls immensely. It feels so muscular. The broad shouldered torque curve just makes it feel like it has bottomless reserves of power.

When out of the gas, it is reasonable quiet even in performance mode. I'm thinking the people that complained about drone are noticing the sound change when it goes to 4cyl. This does not bother me, although at light throttle going up and down hills, it will go in and out of 4cyl more than seems necessary and even the slightest throttle application will knock if out of 4 cyl if you are going over 50 or so. At higher speeds, only goes into 4cyl when totally off throttle like when going downhill or backing off throttle because you are tailgating someone. So far, my only real complaint is that when driving around other cars, especially at a steady speed on 40-60mph speed limit roads, it feels like you are going super slow. Foot is barely touching pedal and I'm constantly creeping up on cars in front of me. Adaptive cruise works well. Averaged 13.7mpg so far which is only 1 mpg less than my 2013 JKUR on 37s

Most awesome vehicle I have owned.. Hands down. This thing is made to have fun. I doubt I will do much offroading in it. I think a jeep with more lift, bigger tires and lighter engine would probably be better. I've never really needed more power than the 3.6 had to offer when offroad. May be good for dune running but I've never done that. For rock crawling, the extra power seems unnecessary to me. On road is where the power shines. The nice thing is that if you get in a pinch you have the ability to go offroad. Was thinking about lift and bigger tires, but the 35s look big enough to me with factory lift and I'm happy with the ride. Don't want to change driveshafts.

I know there are people that will do al the things and turn it into an offroad beast, but I'm liking the on road too much to mess that up. May get another jeep down the road to beat up in the rocks.

Hang in there. The time will go by and one day you will get the call. Totally worth the wait and the huge chunk of change. Puts a smile on my face every time I start it, every time I ease into the throttle and every time I pass somebody. I am so anxious to put a hurting on some people at stop lights. They won't know what hit them, but I live out in the country so that will have to wait for a trip to the city probably.
 
This thing is an absolute monster. I got up to 500 miles today and according to the break in can do some brief full throttle runs. Rolling into the throttle as you are turning out, it feels like you need to be careful. I have only applied full t.hrottle while going in a straight line. It rips through the gears and really does sound like a race car. Shifts are reasonably firm and fast. Going straight and flooring it from 30mph, the front end lifts, rear squats, feels a little squirrely. 70 mph arrives in a flash. Can't stay in the pedal for long. This is the first vehicle (and I can't believe I am saying this......) that I have owned that has enough power. I've always wanted more in my mustangs. even superchargers and turbos were not enough. Wanted to tune my mercedes s65 as if that thing needed more power. Those can be had for cheap, but heaven forbid if anything breaks.

The 392 feels like it has enough power. Squeezing the pedal unleashes an avalanche of torque at low rpm and it rips all the way to redline. Feels like a pretty flat torque curve to me. I'll report back in a couple months as I get used to it and may find myself longing for more, but not right now. It is so hard to drive this thing slow. When cruising, my foot is barely in the gas pedal. Feels like only pushing it down 1/4" or less to go 50 mph, but it is not super sensitive and easy to modulate. No jack rabbit starts if you are trying to take off normally. Maybe throttle is calibrated to be more sensitive the faster you are going. Will do some more research on this.

For pedal commander owners, does the increased sensitivity of the pedal, make it even harder to drive at low to moderate speeds at stead state? At this point, I see no need for a pedal commander and am enjoying part throttle pulls immensely. It feels so muscular. The broad shouldered torque curve just makes it feel like it has bottomless reserves of power.

When out of the gas, it is reasonable quiet even in performance mode. I'm thinking the people that complained about drone are noticing the sound change when it goes to 4cyl. This does not bother me, although at light throttle going up and down hills, it will go in and out of 4cyl more than seems necessary and even the slightest throttle application will knock if out of 4 cyl if you are going over 50 or so. At higher speeds, only goes into 4cyl when totally off throttle like when going downhill or backing off throttle because you are tailgating someone. So far, my only real complaint is that when driving around other cars, especially at a steady speed on 40-60mph speed limit roads, it feels like you are going super slow. Foot is barely touching pedal and I'm constantly creeping up on cars in front of me. Adaptive cruise works well. Averaged 13.7mpg so far which is only 1 mpg less than my 2013 JKUR on 37s

Most awesome vehicle I have owned.. Hands down. This thing is made to have fun. I doubt I will do much offroading in it. I think a jeep with more lift, bigger tires and lighter engine would probably be better. I've never really needed more power than the 3.6 had to offer when offroad. May be good for dune running but I've never done that. For rock crawling, the extra power seems unnecessary to me. On road is where the power shines. The nice thing is that if you get in a pinch you have the ability to go offroad. Was thinking about lift and bigger tires, but the 35s look big enough to me with factory lift and I'm happy with the ride. Don't want to change driveshafts.

I know there are people that will do al the things and turn it into an offroad beast, but I'm liking the on road too much to mess that up. May get another jeep down the road to beat up in the rocks.

Hang in there. The time will go by and one day you will get the call. Totally worth the wait and the huge chunk of change. Puts a smile on my face every time I start it, every time I ease into the throttle and every time I pass somebody. I am so anxious to put a hurting on some people at stop lights. They won't know what hit them, but I live out in the country so that will have to wait for a trip to the city probably.
I “played" with a Charger 392 the other day from a stop light on a deserted four-lane road. I felt the same sensation -- front end lift, rear end squat. We swapped lead a few times until I backed off (OK..I chickened out) when I reached 70 MPH and he kept going. It was a fun loss!
 
Awesome write! I can totally imagine your on-road fun! And I agree that the 392 is more designed for its on-road manner with this HEMI 6.4 and tuned suspension than off-road aspects.

I don’t have my 392 XR yet, and similar to what you’ve expressed, I don’t plan to do much mods in the short term. I want to take advantage of the factory components before dropping in more money.

Wondering how the cylinder deactivation feels at stop sign and low speed cruise. Is there an noticeable switch?
 
this......) that I have owned that has enough power
This thing is an absolute monster. I got up to 500 miles today and according to the break in can do some brief full throttle runs. Rolling into the throttle as you are turning out, it feels like you need to be careful. I have only applied full t.hrottle while going in a straight line. It rips through the gears and really does sound like a race car. Shifts are reasonably firm and fast. Going straight and flooring it from 30mph, the front end lifts, rear squats, feels a little squirrely. 70 mph arrives in a flash. Can't stay in the pedal for long. This is the first vehicle (and I can't believe I am saying this......) that I have owned that has enough power. I've always wanted more in my mustangs. even superchargers and turbos were not enough. Wanted to tune my mercedes s65 as if that thing needed more power. Those can be had for cheap, but heaven forbid if anything breaks.

The 392 feels like it has enough power. Squeezing the pedal unleashes an avalanche of torque at low rpm and it rips all the way to redline. Feels like a pretty flat torque curve to me. I'll report back in a couple months as I get used to it and may find myself longing for more, but not right now. It is so hard to drive this thing slow. When cruising, my foot is barely in the gas pedal. Feels like only pushing it down 1/4" or less to go 50 mph, but it is not super sensitive and easy to modulate. No jack rabbit starts if you are trying to take off normally. Maybe throttle is calibrated to be more sensitive the faster you are going. Will do some more research on this.

For pedal commander owners, does the increased sensitivity of the pedal, make it even harder to drive at low to moderate speeds at stead state? At this point, I see no need for a pedal commander and am enjoying part throttle pulls immensely. It feels so muscular. The broad shouldered torque curve just makes it feel like it has bottomless reserves of power.

When out of the gas, it is reasonable quiet even in performance mode. I'm thinking the people that complained about drone are noticing the sound change when it goes to 4cyl. This does not bother me, although at light throttle going up and down hills, it will go in and out of 4cyl more than seems necessary and even the slightest throttle application will knock if out of 4 cyl if you are going over 50 or so. At higher speeds, only goes into 4cyl when totally off throttle like when going downhill or backing off throttle because you are tailgating someone. So far, my only real complaint is that when driving around other cars, especially at a steady speed on 40-60mph speed limit roads, it feels like you are going super slow. Foot is barely touching pedal and I'm constantly creeping up on cars in front of me. Adaptive cruise works well. Averaged 13.7mpg so far which is only 1 mpg less than my 2013 JKUR on 37s

Most awesome vehicle I have owned.. Hands down. This thing is made to have fun. I doubt I will do much offroading in it. I think a jeep with more lift, bigger tires and lighter engine would probably be better. I've never really needed more power than the 3.6 had to offer when offroad. May be good for dune running but I've never done that. For rock crawling, the extra power seems unnecessary to me. On road is where the power shines. The nice thing is that if you get in a pinch you have the ability to go offroad. Was thinking about lift and bigger tires, but the 35s look big enough to me with factory lift and I'm happy with the ride. Don't want to change driveshafts.

I know there are people that will do al the things and turn it into an offroad beast, but I'm liking the on road too much to mess that up. May get another jeep down the road to beat up in the rocks.

Hang in there. The time will go by and one day you will get the call. Totally worth the wait and the huge chunk of change. Puts a smile on my face every time I start it, every time I ease into the throttle and every time I pass somebody. I am so anxious to put a hurting on some people at stop lights. They won't know what hit them, but I live out in the country so that will have to wait for a trip to the city probably.
I agree with your assessment, I’m pushing 10000 miles on mine, 37s MTs. It’s truly so much fun to drive and I don’t need to repeat what you just said so eloquently. I’ll address the Pedal Commander… it has 36 settings which allows you to dial in your throttle sensitivity. Too sensitive on this thing is borderline dangerous. The PC allows you to easily change settings on your phone instantly while at a stop. It lets the power and torque work a little more for you and gives the illusion that you have even more. My setting is a little too sensitive for my wife but she has gotten used to it, I just turn it off when she is driving if I’m with her but probably don’t need to anymore.
Have you done a brake torque launch yet? You need too. AND…drive around town in Off-road + for a while, basically Jeep sports mode, shift points change, the sound changes an octave or 2. Incredible Jeep!
 
Awesome write! I can totally imagine your on-road fun! And I agree that the 392 is more designed for its on-road manner with this HEMI 6.4 and tuned suspension than off-road aspects.

I don’t have my 392 XR yet, and similar to what you’ve expressed, I don’t plan to do much mods in the short term. I want to take advantage of the factory components before dropping in more money.

Wondering how the cylinder deactivation feels at stop sign and low speed cruise. Is there an noticeable switch?
It does not kick in at stop lights. It is only when you are driving. For sure will kick in going 25-45 slow cruise at light throttle. During this speed range, you can give it a little gas without kicking it out. Can even slowly accelerate and negotiate gentle inclines, but any significant throttle input immediately kicks it out. Tone change is very noticeable if you are in performance mode and not as noticeable in quiet mode. Runs a little rougher in 4 cyl mode. Harsh is too strong of a term, but definitely not as smooth as running on all 8, but this is to be expected. To me it if not objectionable, just weird . It does switch in and out of 4cyl noticeably. Manual shifting with paddle disables 4cyl deactivation.

Definitely helps with mileage watching the trip computer. When speed drops below a certain point (10-25 maybe; haven't paid that much attention) it kicks out all together and doesn't kick in under any load at higher speeds (only coasting). Above 50 or so, the slightest touch of the accelerator kicks it out. It does make tone changes going in and out of 4cyl. I would consider turning it off completely if I could do so without voiding warranty, but have changed my mind on the tuners. I want the warranty. It is crazy to think that a vehicle this wild can be warrantied. I like knowing that I can drive it any way I want to and if I break something, Jeep is on the hook as long as I don't modify it. I did install a tazer, but this is easily removed and I'm told will not void warranty.

Hope this answers some of your questions.
 
This thing is an absolute monster. I got up to 500 miles today and according to the break in can do some brief full throttle runs. Rolling into the throttle as you are turning out, it feels like you need to be careful. I have only applied full t.hrottle while going in a straight line. It rips through the gears and really does sound like a race car. Shifts are reasonably firm and fast. Going straight and flooring it from 30mph, the front end lifts, rear squats, feels a little squirrely. 70 mph arrives in a flash. Can't stay in the pedal for long. This is the first vehicle (and I can't believe I am saying this......) that I have owned that has enough power. I've always wanted more in my mustangs. even superchargers and turbos were not enough. Wanted to tune my mercedes s65 as if that thing needed more power. Those can be had for cheap, but heaven forbid if anything breaks.

The 392 feels like it has enough power. Squeezing the pedal unleashes an avalanche of torque at low rpm and it rips all the way to redline. Feels like a pretty flat torque curve to me. I'll report back in a couple months as I get used to it and may find myself longing for more, but not right now. It is so hard to drive this thing slow. When cruising, my foot is barely in the gas pedal. Feels like only pushing it down 1/4" or less to go 50 mph, but it is not super sensitive and easy to modulate. No jack rabbit starts if you are trying to take off normally. Maybe throttle is calibrated to be more sensitive the faster you are going. Will do some more research on this.

For pedal commander owners, does the increased sensitivity of the pedal, make it even harder to drive at low to moderate speeds at stead state? At this point, I see no need for a pedal commander and am enjoying part throttle pulls immensely. It feels so muscular. The broad shouldered torque curve just makes it feel like it has bottomless reserves of power.

When out of the gas, it is reasonable quiet even in performance mode. I'm thinking the people that complained about drone are noticing the sound change when it goes to 4cyl. This does not bother me, although at light throttle going up and down hills, it will go in and out of 4cyl more than seems necessary and even the slightest throttle application will knock if out of 4 cyl if you are going over 50 or so. At higher speeds, only goes into 4cyl when totally off throttle like when going downhill or backing off throttle because you are tailgating someone. So far, my only real complaint is that when driving around other cars, especially at a steady speed on 40-60mph speed limit roads, it feels like you are going super slow. Foot is barely touching pedal and I'm constantly creeping up on cars in front of me. Adaptive cruise works well. Averaged 13.7mpg so far which is only 1 mpg less than my 2013 JKUR on 37s

Most awesome vehicle I have owned.. Hands down. This thing is made to have fun. I doubt I will do much offroading in it. I think a jeep with more lift, bigger tires and lighter engine would probably be better. I've never really needed more power than the 3.6 had to offer when offroad. May be good for dune running but I've never done that. For rock crawling, the extra power seems unnecessary to me. On road is where the power shines. The nice thing is that if you get in a pinch you have the ability to go offroad. Was thinking about lift and bigger tires, but the 35s look big enough to me with factory lift and I'm happy with the ride. Don't want to change driveshafts.

I know there are people that will do al the things and turn it into an offroad beast, but I'm liking the on road too much to mess that up. May get another jeep down the road to beat up in the rocks.

Hang in there. The time will go by and one day you will get the call. Totally worth the wait and the huge chunk of change. Puts a smile on my face every time I start it, every time I ease into the throttle and every time I pass somebody. I am so anxious to put a hurting on some people at stop lights. They won't know what hit them, but I live out in the country so that will have to wait for a trip to the city probably.

Can't wait to experience it. Most of my driving is in the city and fairly slow. A concern has been low speed manners when just cruising around. Can't wait to surprise a few folks at stop light though
 
I agree with your assessment, I’m pushing 10000 miles on mine, 37s MTs. It’s truly so much fun to drive and I don’t need to repeat what you just said so eloquently. I’ll address the Pedal Commander… it has 36 settings which allows you to dial in your throttle sensitivity. Too sensitive on this thing is borderline dangerous. The PC allows you to easily change settings on your phone instantly while at a stop. It lets the power and torque work a little more for you and gives the illusion that you have even more. My setting is a little too sensitive for my wife but she has gotten used to it, I just turn it off when she is driving if I’m with her but probably don’t need to anymore.
Have you done a brake torque launch yet? You need too. AND…drive around town in Off-road + for a while, basically Jeep sports mode, shift points change, the sound changes an octave or 2. Incredible Jeep!
No brake torque launch yet. Haven't played with offroad +, but they are on the short list of things to do. Thanks for the tip.
 
Can't wait to experience it. Most of my driving is in the city and fairly slow. A concern has been low speed manners when just cruising around. Can't wait to surprise a few folks at stop light though
No worries about slow speed manners. It is very composed and brakes a whole lot better than my JKUR on 37s. Only thing about driving slow, it that it just feels like it wants to go. Almost like you are reigning it in continuously if you have to drive slow steady speeds. You want to get into the gas to hear the exhaust, but you really can't because it gets going too fast, too quick if you try to play any. In low speed cruising, I've been playing with throttle to explore the 4cyl deactivation. Gives me something interesting to do without pushing the car in front of me too much.

You need to get it on some roads where you can experience the part throttle pulls. Also it's cool going up hills in higher gears and feeling how the torque will let you accelerate while going up hill without downshifting. At low rpms under load, it rumbles like thunder.

Hopefully your city driving will have lots of stop lights, a decent speed limit and pretty light traffic. That will be lots of fun. Rush hour stop and go traffic would be a total waste of the beast.
 
It does not kick in at stop lights. It is only when you are driving. For sure will kick in going 25-45 slow cruise at light throttle. During this speed range, you can give it a little gas without kicking it out. Can even slowly accelerate and negotiate gentle inclines, but any significant throttle input immediately kicks it out. Tone change is very noticeable if you are in performance mode and not as noticeable in quiet mode. Runs a little rougher in 4 cyl mode. Harsh is too strong of a term, but definitely not as smooth as running on all 8, but this is to be expected. To me it if not objectionable, just weird . It does switch in and out of 4cyl noticeably. Manual shifting with paddle disables 4cyl deactivation.

Definitely helps with mileage watching the trip computer. When speed drops below a certain point (10-25 maybe; haven't paid that much attention) it kicks out all together and doesn't kick in under any load at higher speeds (only coasting). Above 50 or so, the slightest touch of the accelerator kicks it out. It does make tone changes going in and out of 4cyl. I would consider turning it off completely if I could do so without voiding warranty, but have changed my mind on the tuners. I want the warranty. It is crazy to think that a vehicle this wild can be warrantied. I like knowing that I can drive it any way I want to and if I break something, Jeep is on the hook as long as I don't modify it. I did install a tazer, but this is easily removed and I'm told will not void warranty.

Hope this answers some of your questions.
Thanks for the first hand experience!
 
I have around 3K on the 392 it is a blast to dive on and off road, I have owned 8 Jeeps over the years 5 Jeeps I bought new and 3 used.
Nothing like the 392 it's a whole different animal, it still has some Jeep quirks but drives pretty good overall, DO NOT under estimate this Jeep offroad, in it's stock form it's dam good and I would put it up against anything out there in stock form. I was really impressed with the Speed Select in 4WD Lo, It made rock climbing and steep hill climbing a breeze add the Offroad Plus and it holds the gears to 2200 RPM's. I have owned some dam good Jeeps over the years so far this is the best..:)
 
Gonna bookmark this to read every time I get the "can't believe you're spending this much on a 'stock' jeep" feeling. I have a suspicion (based off your postd and others like it) that hesitant feeling won't last long once she's delivered!

You write beautifully! Really appreciate the detailed accounting of this kind of stuff. All the youtube reviews start to sound the same after awhile. Happy you're enjoying it and looking forward to sharing the feeling!
 
Gonna bookmark this to read every time I get the "can't believe you're spending this much on a 'stock' jeep" feeling. I have a suspicion (based off your postd and others like it) that hesitant feeling won't last long once she's delivered!

You write beautifully! Really appreciate the detailed accounting of this kind of stuff. All the youtube reviews start to sound the same after awhile. Happy you're enjoying it and looking forward to sharing the feeling!
Any buyer’s remorse will disappear in a second after you pull out of the dealership for the first time with an “amazed" grin on your face.
 
Gonna bookmark this to read every time I get the "can't believe you're spending this much on a 'stock' jeep" feeling. I have a suspicion (based off your postd and others like it) that hesitant feeling won't last long once she's delivered!

You write beautifully! Really appreciate the detailed accounting of this kind of stuff. All the youtube reviews start to sound the same after awhile. Happy you're enjoying it and looking forward to sharing the feeling!
Thanks. I had that thought too about "can't believe I'm spending this much......." Sure I could buy two vehicles for less than this and they could collectively do just about any job better than the 392, except for the job that might matter the most.. Making me grin. I have never enjoyed a vehicle this much. It just checks so many boxes.

From a practical standpoint, it is not as comfortable as a Land cruiser, not as fast as a mustang, not as capable as a heavy modded jeep. None of that matters. When you are driving this thing and looking over that bulging hood, you feel like you are driving a tank when you are cruising, but the moment you get into the gas, you're driving a go kart. Let the naysayers say what they will. This Jeep really is special and you have to drive it for a little bit to appreciate that.

No buyers remorse whatsoever.
 
Salt in the wound, my friend. Salt in the wound...
Just quit reading these posts :). I know when I was waiting, I would search youtube almost daily looking for new videos. Always looking on here for new posts. That does make you want it more...... Then I might feel hopeless with the waiting and quit looking for a few days. It will come though. My 5 month wait was miserable at times, but y'all just hang in there. The wait will be worth it.......... Then you can get on here and make the waiters feel jealous.

Believe me, that is not my intent. I just know when I was waiting, I loved reading and watching all the stuff people put out here. Ridiculous to watch same videos over and over, but I did it.
 
Yup... still waiting... even from the '21 - but to be fair, as that fell apart, I ordered another ('22) on October 8th.
 
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