hardhat
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This thing is an absolute monster. I got up to 500 miles today and according to the break in can do some brief full throttle runs. Rolling into the throttle as you are turning out, it feels like you need to be careful. I have only applied full t.hrottle while going in a straight line. It rips through the gears and really does sound like a race car. Shifts are reasonably firm and fast. Going straight and flooring it from 30mph, the front end lifts, rear squats, feels a little squirrely. 70 mph arrives in a flash. Can't stay in the pedal for long. This is the first vehicle (and I can't believe I am saying this......) that I have owned that has enough power. I've always wanted more in my mustangs. even superchargers and turbos were not enough. Wanted to tune my mercedes s65 as if that thing needed more power. Those can be had for cheap, but heaven forbid if anything breaks.
The 392 feels like it has enough power. Squeezing the pedal unleashes an avalanche of torque at low rpm and it rips all the way to redline. Feels like a pretty flat torque curve to me. I'll report back in a couple months as I get used to it and may find myself longing for more, but not right now. It is so hard to drive this thing slow. When cruising, my foot is barely in the gas pedal. Feels like only pushing it down 1/4" or less to go 50 mph, but it is not super sensitive and easy to modulate. No jack rabbit starts if you are trying to take off normally. Maybe throttle is calibrated to be more sensitive the faster you are going. Will do some more research on this.
For pedal commander owners, does the increased sensitivity of the pedal, make it even harder to drive at low to moderate speeds at stead state? At this point, I see no need for a pedal commander and am enjoying part throttle pulls immensely. It feels so muscular. The broad shouldered torque curve just makes it feel like it has bottomless reserves of power.
When out of the gas, it is reasonable quiet even in performance mode. I'm thinking the people that complained about drone are noticing the sound change when it goes to 4cyl. This does not bother me, although at light throttle going up and down hills, it will go in and out of 4cyl more than seems necessary and even the slightest throttle application will knock if out of 4 cyl if you are going over 50 or so. At higher speeds, only goes into 4cyl when totally off throttle like when going downhill or backing off throttle because you are tailgating someone. So far, my only real complaint is that when driving around other cars, especially at a steady speed on 40-60mph speed limit roads, it feels like you are going super slow. Foot is barely touching pedal and I'm constantly creeping up on cars in front of me. Adaptive cruise works well. Averaged 13.7mpg so far which is only 1 mpg less than my 2013 JKUR on 37s
Most awesome vehicle I have owned.. Hands down. This thing is made to have fun. I doubt I will do much offroading in it. I think a jeep with more lift, bigger tires and lighter engine would probably be better. I've never really needed more power than the 3.6 had to offer when offroad. May be good for dune running but I've never done that. For rock crawling, the extra power seems unnecessary to me. On road is where the power shines. The nice thing is that if you get in a pinch you have the ability to go offroad. Was thinking about lift and bigger tires, but the 35s look big enough to me with factory lift and I'm happy with the ride. Don't want to change driveshafts.
I know there are people that will do al the things and turn it into an offroad beast, but I'm liking the on road too much to mess that up. May get another jeep down the road to beat up in the rocks.
Hang in there. The time will go by and one day you will get the call. Totally worth the wait and the huge chunk of change. Puts a smile on my face every time I start it, every time I ease into the throttle and every time I pass somebody. I am so anxious to put a hurting on some people at stop lights. They won't know what hit them, but I live out in the country so that will have to wait for a trip to the city probably.
The 392 feels like it has enough power. Squeezing the pedal unleashes an avalanche of torque at low rpm and it rips all the way to redline. Feels like a pretty flat torque curve to me. I'll report back in a couple months as I get used to it and may find myself longing for more, but not right now. It is so hard to drive this thing slow. When cruising, my foot is barely in the gas pedal. Feels like only pushing it down 1/4" or less to go 50 mph, but it is not super sensitive and easy to modulate. No jack rabbit starts if you are trying to take off normally. Maybe throttle is calibrated to be more sensitive the faster you are going. Will do some more research on this.
For pedal commander owners, does the increased sensitivity of the pedal, make it even harder to drive at low to moderate speeds at stead state? At this point, I see no need for a pedal commander and am enjoying part throttle pulls immensely. It feels so muscular. The broad shouldered torque curve just makes it feel like it has bottomless reserves of power.
When out of the gas, it is reasonable quiet even in performance mode. I'm thinking the people that complained about drone are noticing the sound change when it goes to 4cyl. This does not bother me, although at light throttle going up and down hills, it will go in and out of 4cyl more than seems necessary and even the slightest throttle application will knock if out of 4 cyl if you are going over 50 or so. At higher speeds, only goes into 4cyl when totally off throttle like when going downhill or backing off throttle because you are tailgating someone. So far, my only real complaint is that when driving around other cars, especially at a steady speed on 40-60mph speed limit roads, it feels like you are going super slow. Foot is barely touching pedal and I'm constantly creeping up on cars in front of me. Adaptive cruise works well. Averaged 13.7mpg so far which is only 1 mpg less than my 2013 JKUR on 37s
Most awesome vehicle I have owned.. Hands down. This thing is made to have fun. I doubt I will do much offroading in it. I think a jeep with more lift, bigger tires and lighter engine would probably be better. I've never really needed more power than the 3.6 had to offer when offroad. May be good for dune running but I've never done that. For rock crawling, the extra power seems unnecessary to me. On road is where the power shines. The nice thing is that if you get in a pinch you have the ability to go offroad. Was thinking about lift and bigger tires, but the 35s look big enough to me with factory lift and I'm happy with the ride. Don't want to change driveshafts.
I know there are people that will do al the things and turn it into an offroad beast, but I'm liking the on road too much to mess that up. May get another jeep down the road to beat up in the rocks.
Hang in there. The time will go by and one day you will get the call. Totally worth the wait and the huge chunk of change. Puts a smile on my face every time I start it, every time I ease into the throttle and every time I pass somebody. I am so anxious to put a hurting on some people at stop lights. They won't know what hit them, but I live out in the country so that will have to wait for a trip to the city probably.