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Gas Mileage

Just got back from a trip to Reno. Traveled over 1100 miles in both freeway and town driving, up and over Donner Summit, and did some nice off roading at Moonrock outside of Reno. The Jeep 392 did awesome and the gas mileage for the entire trip averaged 18.9 mpg, which I felt was respectful for this vehicle. Had a great time with family and got to see some great countryside. I almost forgot, we went up Pevine mountain which was over 8100 ft high and got great views of the entire Reno valley
 
About 14 mpg for my xr. Mix of city and highway. See 16 on highway 13 around town depending on how drive
 
I only got 15 mpg during my 1000 miles round trip on highway between 70 and 80 mph.

30 miles per day local + a few minutes highway get a combined 12-13 for me. When I want a better mpg, I just reset the meter and release the gas, happy moment to see the green bar goes all the way to 99 mpg.
 
That's better than my PowerWagon with 35 Nitto RGs, last tank around town was 9.7mpg... $129 to fill, thanks Joe! 🤕
 
That is some very impressive mileage! We’re you seeing a lot of the “4 cyl” during those miles? I don’t yet have a feel for how much that actually saves me. I’m so early in my ownership and finally past break in that my foot just feels a bit heavy at times… :)

And also, I’d not thank Joe, I’d thank the oil co’s who are picking all of our pockets. Look at this Q1 versus last Q1’s financials. That $93B in profit over last year was entirely their profiteering. We’re getting had.
 
Gas mileage on these things is hilarious. Just look at the economy gauge. It is orange between 0-5 mpg, yellow from 5-10 and green if you are over 10mpg. Basically if you are over 10mpg, this thing thinks you are driving economically. Like when the ECO light used to light up. And if you are over 20mpg, you are off the chart.

Gotta love it. When I tell people that drive regular vehicles that I get 14mpg, they cringe. Actually if I'm less than 13mpg, I feel like I need to do better. 13 something is OK. Anything over 14, I'm doing good.

The fuel economy has not impacted the enjoyment from driving this thing. My 2013 JKUR only got about 1mpg better on average.
 
I have not gone on a long trip but I would bet any money that I will never get that good of mileage on a tank or a trip with the 392. When I am on the interstate at 75 or so the average goes up slightly but not much at all. I am referring to the average on the trip gauge that resets when the trip is reset.
 
I have been pretty happy with the MPG. My 392 on 35s gets about the same as my 3.6MT on 34s. And there is no comparison to the temperature that worried me in the 3.6. I couldn’t drive the 3.6 without seeing 240 coolant temps. Haven’t seen that in the 392 yet. Most times when I reset the trip I am around 18mpg.
 
Wow, I just don't get how thats possible. I'm usually at 12, thats a big difference. I have fun with it but I'm certainly not crazy either.
Not much “city” where I am ;). But that allows me to let it stretch its legs a little…. Mountain passes and 2 lane roads here.
 
That is some very impressive mileage! We’re you seeing a lot of the “4 cyl” during those miles? I don’t yet have a feel for how much that actually saves me. I’m so early in my ownership and finally past break in that my foot just feels a bit heavy at times… :)

And also, I’d not thank Joe, I’d thank the oil co’s who are picking all of our pockets. Look at this Q1 versus last Q1’s financials. That $93B in profit over last year was entirely their profiteering. We’re getting had.
Not sure I have ever seen or felt the 4 cyl mode, most of the freeway driving was between 65 and 80 mph and I did use the acc driving mode most of the way
 
Stock 392 vs say an XR on 37s is a huge difference. My XR on 37s gets around 13 mpg in city. Expected worse tbh.
 
After a hard couple days of off-roading in Moab, air filter has to be full of red dust, drove down to SW Colorado and stayed in a cabin in Delores. Reset the odometer and after driving home to Denver via Grand Junction and up over Vail Pass to Denver (425 miles) checked it when I got home. 20.1 mpg average. That is a lot of cruise control, 5 mph over speed limit, non-XR stock except was loaded for bear including 150 pounds of skid plates. I can feel the "rumble" when it kicks down to 4 cylinders (mildly annoying) but super happy at seeing 20+ mpg! I did pull off a few mountain road passing maneuvers that were full throttle and almost hitting speed limiter, so was not babied on the way home. Love this thing.
 
That is some very impressive mileage! We’re you seeing a lot of the “4 cyl” during those miles? I don’t yet have a feel for how much that actually saves me. I’m so early in my ownership and finally past break in that my foot just feels a bit heavy at times… :)

And also, I’d not thank Joe, I’d thank the oil co’s who are picking all of our pockets. Look at this Q1 versus last Q1’s financials. That $93B in profit over last year was entirely their profiteering. We’re getting had.
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After a hard couple days of off-roading in Moab, air filter has to be full of red dust, drove down to SW Colorado and stayed in a cabin in Delores. Reset the odometer and after driving home to Denver via Grand Junction and up over Vail Pass to Denver (425 miles) checked it when I got home. 20.1 mpg average. That is a lot of cruise control, 5 mph over speed limit, non-XR stock except was loaded for bear including 150 pounds of skid plates. I can feel the "rumble" when it kicks down to 4 cylinders (mildly annoying) but super happy at seeing 20+ mpg! I did pull off a few mountain road passing maneuvers that were full throttle and almost hitting speed limiter, so was not babied on the way home. Love this thing.
I’ve done that same drive. In all fairness, dropping in altitude helps. Saw the same with both previous Jeeps, same trip.
 
I've actually drove up and down a mountain and got very good mileage overall. Doesn't seem possible but in my experience I get more back on the downside than I lose on the upside. Colorado countless times and lived in So Cal a few years.
 
Stock 392 vs say an XR on 37s is a huge difference. My XR on 37s gets around 13 mpg in city. Expected worse tbh.
I have a 3 1/2" lift, with approx. 600 lbs. additional weight on 37's and 3.73 gearing...getting around 12.5 mpg in town (4500' altitude)....
 
I've actually drove up and down a mountain and got very good mileage overall. Doesn't seem possible but in my experience I get more back on the downside than I lose on the upside. Colorado countless times and lived in So Cal a few years.
You just validated my comment. 😎
 
Good read here. Pretty shocking to see it. It's easy to blame whatever Potus is in office, but they have very little control over a global market and the corporate greed. Hopefully they get that bill passed. We'd all benefit.


The top 20 U.S- based oil and gas companies reported $30.3 billion in profits in the first quarter of 2022, an 155% increase from the first quarter of 2021.

In the first five months of 2022, eight companies authorized plans to buy back and retire $46 billion in stock — a 116% increase over the $21.2 billion in buybacks authorized throughout all of 2021.

A full $36 billion of those buyback authorizations came since the start of February 2022, as Russian preparations for their eventual invasion of Ukraine sent oil prices skyrocketing.

Seven companies are paying extra bonus dividends on top of their routine quarterly payments, including by implementing new variable payouts based on their earnings — a way of guaranteeing to shareholders a large portion of their windfall profits. So far in 2022, these companies have announced $8.3 billion in special windfall dividends.
Five of these companies — Pioneer, Chesapeake, Conoco, and Coterra, and Diamondback — announced variable dividends since the start of August 2021, as prices began to rise.

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Good read here. Pretty shocking to see it. It's easy to blame whatever Potus is in office, but they have very little control over a global market and the corporate greed. Hopefully they get that bill passed. We'd all benefit.


The top 20 U.S- based oil and gas companies reported $30.3 billion in profits in the first quarter of 2022, an 155% increase from the first quarter of 2021.

In the first five months of 2022, eight companies authorized plans to buy back and retire $46 billion in stock — a 116% increase over the $21.2 billion in buybacks authorized throughout all of 2021.

A full $36 billion of those buyback authorizations came since the start of February 2022, as Russian preparations for their eventual invasion of Ukraine sent oil prices skyrocketing.

Seven companies are paying extra bonus dividends on top of their routine quarterly payments, including by implementing new variable payouts based on their earnings — a way of guaranteeing to shareholders a large portion of their windfall profits. So far in 2022, these companies have announced $8.3 billion in special windfall dividends.
Five of these companies — Pioneer, Chesapeake, Conoco, and Coterra, and Diamondback — announced variable dividends since the start of August 2021, as prices began to rise.

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I think a lot of people are reading too much into the headlines with these things instead of looking into the actual numbers. If you look at the 10-Qs for Q1 for the companies listed in that chart you give in your reference above, these oil companies are averaging 3%-6% net income margins, which is hardly profiteering. These are very typical Wall Street profit margins for any company in any given year. And of course their revenue and net income are up YoY, a year ago we were dealing with lockdowns and unusually low travel, etc. artificially suppressing demand.

I agree that the White House does not have complete control over oil prices, however they do have significant influence over pricing. Oil, like any commodity, is priced based on the market. When governments publicly state time and time again that there will be no more drilling, no more projects, we won’t support any more research or investment into fossil fuels, then of course there’s going to be less investment, causing a higher perceived (and in reality actual) scarcity, driving up prices absent change in demand. To say that the current regime isn’t at least partially to blame is crazy.
 
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