Crooked Muffler/Pipes Solved!

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I noticed my 392, along with others I’ve seen in photos, have mufflers that hang lower on the right side. This causes the right tail pipes to hang lower, as well. I know it’s only cosmetic but the fix is easy, costs nothing, so why not do it?. Using a 15mm deep socket, loosen the two exhaust flange bolts forward of the muffler, grab the muffler and wiggle it until it stays level, then retighten the bolts. While I was there a made minor adjustments to the tailpipes to level them out also. I don’t know the torque requirements but 30 ft lbs. seemed to work.

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I noticed my 392, along with others I’ve seen in photos, have mufflers that hang lower on the right side. This causes the right tail pipes to hang lower, as well. I know it’s only cosmetic but the fix is easy, costs nothing, so why not do it?. Using a 15mm deep socket, loosen the two exhaust flange bolts forward of the muffler, grab the muffler and wiggle it until it stays level, then retighten the bolts. While I was there a made minor adjustments to the tailpipes to level them out also. I don’t know the torque requirements but 30 ft lbs seemed to work.
I’m OCD as well.🤣
 

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I’m OCD as well.🤣
I understand. Even though there was only 1/2 inch difference, it seemed like much more, especially because of he bright silver muffler against a dark background. So, I also painted the back side of the muffler with high heat satin black paint. That made a huge difference.
 
I understand. Even though there was only 1/2 inch difference, it seemed like much more, especially because of he bright silver muffler against a dark background. So, I also painted the back side of the muffler with high heat satin black paint. That made a huge difference.
Any pics painted?
 
I understand. Even though there was only 1/2 inch difference, it seemed like much more, especially because of he bright silver muffler against a dark background. So, I also painted the back side of the muffler with high heat satin black paint. That made a huge difference.
I’m so ocd, I removed the rear gold/bronze tow hook so it doesn’t interfere with the view of the exhaust.💪🏼
 
Great tip - thanks! My 392 will (hopefully) arrive in late Nov and I have to say that muffler must go ASAP. Fingers crossed Borla’s new exhaust equates to a cleaner look. I absolutely hate being able to see mufflers on any vehicle. Jeep could have at least gone with black…that would have helped.
 
I noticed my 392, along with others I’ve seen in photos, have mufflers that hang lower on the right side. This causes the right tail pipes to hang lower, as well. I know it’s only cosmetic but the fix is easy, costs nothing, so why not do it?. Using a 15mm deep socket, loosen the two exhaust flange bolts forward of the muffler, grab the muffler and wiggle it until it stays level, then retighten the bolts. While I was there a made minor adjustments to the tailpipes to level them out also. I don’t know the torque requirements but 30 ft lbs seemed to work.
Thanks for that…I just dealt with mine. The outer tips don’t have much play but I’m 21 inches from the floor to the top of all 4 tips now after leveling the muffler and adjusting tips.
 
I noticed my 392, along with others I’ve seen in photos, have mufflers that hang lower on the right side. This causes the right tail pipes to hang lower, as well. I know it’s only cosmetic but the fix is easy, costs nothing, so why not do it?. Using a 15mm deep socket, loosen the two exhaust flange bolts forward of the muffler, grab the muffler and wiggle it until it stays level, then retighten the bolts. While I was there a made minor adjustments to the tailpipes to level them out also. I don’t know the torque requirements but 30 ft lbs seemed to work.
Thanks @CBH . I have some random stuff that I need to store, can I keep it in your garage???
 
Any pics painted?
The Muffler is much less noticeable in black, IMO. I will probably end up painting the pipes as well.
 

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I’m so ocd, I removed the rear gold/bronze tow hook so it doesn’t interfere with the view of the exhaust.💪🏼
Hey you got a pic of that? I've been thinking to clear the view to the tips since I met my 392 on the lot.
 
I noticed my 392, along with others I’ve seen in photos, have mufflers that hang lower on the right side. This causes the right tail pipes to hang lower, as well. I know it’s only cosmetic but the fix is easy, costs nothing, so why not do it?. Using a 15mm deep socket, loosen the two exhaust flange bolts forward of the muffler, grab the muffler and wiggle it until it stays level, then retighten the bolts. While I was there a made minor adjustments to the tailpipes to level them out also. I don’t know the torque requirements but 30 ft lbs seemed to work.
Thank you for this thread! I just got back from a week's vacation that involved two days on the trails. I noticed my exhaust hanging low on the passenger side and thought I had bent it! Got up underneath and couldn't see any damage or what to adjust to level it out. I would not have guessed those two bolts would have done the trick but they did. To me, it seems that wiggling the muffler allowed the driver side to drop down to the level as the passenger side. I have the next venture skid system on order so it'll be interesting to see if there is enough room between the exhaust tips and their skid.
 
I noticed my drivers side rubber hanger on exhaust was not pulled down to stretch out as I had same issue with passenger side 1/2 lower. I pulled drivers side down to stretch rubber hanger. Exhaust now level then loosened the 2 inside exhaust tips and pulled down to be even with outside tips
 
I noticed my drivers side rubber hanger on exhaust was not pulled down to stretch out as I had same issue with passenger side 1/2 lower. I pulled drivers side down to stretch rubber hanger. Exhaust now level then loosened the 2 inside exhaust tips and pulled down to be even with outside tips
I tried the same technique but found after driving a few miles the muffler returned back to its tilted position. That’s when I loosened the flange bolts forward of the muffler, then retightened them after leveling the muffler. Before you declare victory, check the muffler after driving awhile to see if your muffler stays level. If it did, I would check the torque on the flange bolts to make sure they are tight.
 
I have to agree that it is not pretty, even in some of Jeep`s photos you can see that the muffler is painted black
I just chose to go with a bronze header wrap
 
I have to agree that it is not pretty, even in some of Jeep`s photos you can see that the muffler is painted black
I just chose to go with a bronze header wrap
You may have seen the photo of my 392 with the painted black muffler. I used high heat flat black spray paint and only painted the rear portion of the muffler to help it “hide” from view.
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I noticed my 392, along with others I’ve seen in photos, have mufflers that hang lower on the right side. This causes the right tail pipes to hang lower, as well. I know it’s only cosmetic but the fix is easy, costs nothing, so why not do it?. Using a 15mm deep socket, loosen the two exhaust flange bolts forward of the muffler, grab the muffler and wiggle it until it stays level, then retighten the bolts. While I was there a made minor adjustments to the tailpipes to level them out also. I don’t know the torque requirements but 30 ft lbs seemed to work.
Dealer took care of it at oil change and also ordered bronze plate for rear door
 
Dealer took care of it at oil change and also ordered bronze plate for rear door
You are so fortunate to have a dealer that is leaning forward to help you. My dealer did not offer to do anything -- pay for plate -- pay for the rivets -- pay to have the plate installed; nada.

It’s really not about the money, it’s about dealers doing the right thing. When I asked my dealer about doing the work they told me, “We don’t rivets; I guess you’ll have to find a body shop to do it.”

So I paid for the plate and the rivets and plan to do the work myself. I waited 45 days for the plate, then waited 60 days and only got 1 of 4 rivets; so I gave up and ordered rivets from a Chrysler Parts Warehouse (run out of Thunder Chrysler in Bartow, FL) and had them delivered to my house in less than 1 week.

I knew owning another Jeep would be an adventure; I just didn’t know the adventure would be dealing with the supply system.
 

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