40 miles on the odometer and check engine light on

[Bman03]

Hey Y’all-

Just purchased a brand new sarge green powertop 392 yesterday!

I was so excited.

Last night I was driving around and all my engine lights turn on… ABS- cruise control keeps turning on and off-

Just straight electrical issues.

I pulled over and turned it off and it wouldn’t start for over 5 minutes.

Finally got the truck to start and drove it home.

Most lights were still on.

Now this morning the check engine light is still on.

Not sure what to do and my odometer is at 40 miles!

Did I get a lemon?

I know once shit like this happens it’s constant….

Should I ask to trade it for something else or money back?

They have another 392 string ray on the lot, just not powertop.

Unacceptable for a $90k rig !!!

First pic is this morning and second is this last night

 

[Rand392]

after reading months of post here before my Jeep came in. This seems similar to people who have unseated fuses. Maybe check them?

 

[Bman03]

after reading months of post here before my Jeep came in. This seems similar to people who have unseated fuses. Maybe check them?

I checked last night. It was dark and tried to click everything in.

They all seemed seated.

Going to try it again once the engine cools down.

 

[sixfour]

I checked last night. It was dark and tried to click everything in.

They all seemed seated.

Going to try it again once the engine cools down.

This can happen too, when the gas cap is not seated all the way. They may have filled it up and not put it on right, back it off reseat it and you‘ll need to drive about 15 30 miles to clear the engine light. I’ve had about 10 jeeps over the years and you would have thought Jeep would have fixed this with the capless gas door set up like they have on my Trackhawk, TRX and GC L. (Or about every other jeep product….)

Hope it’s as easy as this to fix, just had this on my son’s 2019 Jeep Rubicon, cleared in 20 or so miles just today.

Good Luck

 

[hardhat]

I'd pull the code and see what it is before randomly doing a bunch of stuff. Nothing wrong with trying gas cap and fuses (common issue). If you don't have an OBD-II reader and it is running OK a quick trip to autoparts store and they can pull code for you. Tazer will pull codes, but I don't know how to pull codes on the 392 without a reader. Other option is take it right back to dealer and get them to make it right.

Older vehicles had a thing where you could do a few things and the check engine light would blink out the codes, but don't know if they still have such.

This definitely sucks, but would not write the vehicle off. Probably something very simple, almost certainly a wiring issue that could be as simple as a loose connection. Loose groudn wire has done some weird stuff on some guys Jeeps. Once you get it fixed, it is in no way guaranteed to be a persistent issue. I think it is just more of a fluke thing than you getting a lemon. Many of us have had QC issues like loose fuses, crooked mufflers, misaimed headlights, etc.....

Like someone else said, the JL is a $30k vehicle with $60k in options. Expect QC at a level of a $30k vehicle....

 

[BenLandry]

Other 392s on this forum who have had similar issues was a wire bundle on a part of the engine/exhaust that was melted. All of them were easily fixed at the dealer. Only one engine failure that I know of…I’m sure there are more.

 

[Jeepstin392]

Take it back to the dealer.
It’s under warranty.
Sure, you can check the simple things. But why stress about it, when it covered?

 

[Dral97]

Let us know what it is when you (or the dealer) figure it out.

 

[Bman03]

Will do- taking it in on Thursday. On a work trip now.

dealer asked if i had my cab lights on when this happened, and i think i did.

he said the 4xe has a lot of issues with the electronics but first he heard about the 392.

anyways im going to bring it in in a few days. Ill keep y’all posted.

 

[Bman03]

Welp it happened again. Not only did all my electrical stuff go haywire but i made a right turn and my steering went out. I couldn’t move the wheel at all. Had to get it towed to the dealer. Contacted a lemon lawyer and hoping jeep does the right thing and takes me out of the truck…. hopefully they can expedite me building one or something.

 

[Bman03]

heres a video of what happened right before my steering completely locked. Dealer has never heard of this issue with a 392 before….. i dont feel safe driving this truck again.

big issue with an $85k truck with 150 miles on the odometer


What can I do y’all?

 

[hardhat]

Hopefully they will make it right for you.

 

[thexr6]

heres a video of what happened right before my steering completely locked. Dealer has never heard of this issue with a 392 before….. i dont feel safe driving this truck again.

big issue with an $85k truck with 150 miles on the odometer


What can I do y’all?

Video link?

 

[@JC]

I remember a guy on the HDRams forum who got another PW about the same time as I got mine having a similar issue. It ended up being a bad ground and was an easy fix once he got it in. Hopefully yours is an easy fix too, good luck.

 

[Bman03]

Got my first update from the dealer- everything is cleared… they don’t know what happened with the locked steering.

I’m sure they’re gonna try and give it back to me and say it’s fixed.

I really don’t feel comfortable driving a machine that has 470 HP on 35s when the wheel locks.

Is there anything I can do? Would really want them to buy me out and/or build me a new one.

I doubt they will because lemon law is they have a few chances to fix it… but really don’t feel safe in it.

 

[hardhat]

There is a big difference between losing power steering and wheel "locking" where it cannot be moved at all.

Just losing power is not that big of an immediate safety hazard as it does not require much effort to turn wheels once you get rolling. Main thing power steering does is make it easier to drive in a parking lot or turn wheels when vehicle not moving.

If it is actually locking up that is a huge safety issue.....especially if it happens in the middle of a turn at speed.

I don't see how an electrical fault could make the steering "lock." These things don't have lane keep assist or any device that tries to control the steering. Improper tension on steering gear box adjustment can reportedly cause steering to lock, but this would not be a random intermittent issue associated with warning lights.

If you were sitting still when it happened, it would certainly feel like the steering was locked. I bet it would take a tremendous amount of force on steering wheel to turn the tires at rest.

Hope they make it right for you. Steering is such a safety issue, if you are not getting results from your dealer, you could probably escalate this pretty quickly with Stellantis.

 

[Dral97]

Hope they make it right for you. Steering is such a safety issue, if you are not getting results from your dealer, you could probably escalate this pretty quickly with Stellantis.

Agree. Do this now (Call stellantis/Jeepcares and get a case going) if you haven't already. If you need to escalate this, they will already know about it. Also, if it is happening to other people, it helps them collect the data to hopefully make it right/improve things.

 

[stumblinhorse]

There is a big difference between losing power steering and wheel "locking" where it cannot be moved at all.

Just losing power is not that big of an immediate safety hazard as it does not require much effort to turn wheels once you get rolling. Main thing power steering does is make it easier to drive in a parking lot or turn wheels when vehicle not moving.

If it is actually locking up that is a huge safety issue.....especially if it happens in the middle of a turn at speed.

I don't see how an electrical fault could make the steering "lock." These things don't have lane keep assist or any device that tries to control the steering. Improper tension on steering gear box adjustment can reportedly cause steering to lock, but this would not be a random intermittent issue associated with warning lights.

If you were sitting still when it happened, it would certainly feel like the steering was locked. I bet it would take a tremendous amount of force on steering wheel to turn the tires at rest.

Hope they make it right for you. Steering is such a safety issue, if you are not getting results from your dealer, you could probably escalate this pretty quickly with Stellantis.

Little known fact Jeep wranglers don’t have a steering column lock. tj, jk or JL can be steered in any conditions.

 

[hardhat]

Little known fact Jeep wranglers don’t have a steering column lock. tj, jk or JL can be steered in any conditions.

Only thing I can think of that would cause a true "lock" would be if gearbox was too tight, but that is extremely unlikely in this case.

 

[Bman03]

they said it was the fuel pump module that was installed incorrectly. looks like ill be picking the jeep back up tomorrow. Will keep everyone posted. Really hoping they fixed the issue…