3.5" lift kit= dash cluster looks like a christmas tree.

[Josh's392]

Mornin y'all. Over the weekend, I installed my rough country lift kit. My abs, service 4x4 and a few other lights are on. Also unable to use cruise control. Is this common? When installing a suspension lift. I appreciate any advice or comments.

 

[84jeepjohn]

Is your steering wheel straight?

If not that's probably the cause

 

[Rubikane]

Wheel speed sensor

 

[Robr651]

Another vote for wheel speed sensor, check the wires going to them.

 

[@WhiteBronze392]

Definitely steering wheel. You will probably need to remove where the shaft goes into the steering box and get all straight and reconnect. It may look straight but it’s not according to the sensors if that makes sense

 

[guruman]

Definitely steering wheel. You will probably need to remove where the shaft goes into the steering box and get all straight and reconnect. It may look straight but it’s not according to the sensors if that makes sense

That's not at all how you adjust that....

If I recall correctly, the steering shaft is keyed so that you cannot just rotate the shaft and reconnect it to the steering box.

Adjusting the length of the drag link is how you re-center the steering wheel. The stock drag link has a turnbuckle that connects the left and right side of the drag link together. loosening the clamps, and spinning the turnbuckle one way, makes the assembly longer, effectively forcing he steering wheel to the right. Turning it the other way, shortens the assembly, turning the steering wheel back to the left.

It usually takes me several passes at turning the adjuster, then driving it a bit, then re-adjusting to get it centered and "perfect".

If you are driving straight down the road and you steering wheel is not straight enough, it will definitely light up the dash and disable traction control, and cruise and a bunch of other stuff.

Aftermarket drag links might have another mechanism to adjust, but it should have some way to change the length to make the wheel straight again.

 

[@WhiteBronze392]

That's not at all how you adjust that....

If I recall correctly, the steering shaft is keyed so that you cannot just rotate the shaft and reconnect it to the steering box.

Adjusting the length of the drag link is how you re-center the steering wheel. The stock drag link has a turnbuckle that connects the left and right side of the drag link together. loosening the clamps, and spinning the turnbuckle one way, makes the assembly longer, effectively forcing he steering wheel to the right. Turning it the other way, shortens the assembly, turning the steering wheel back to the left.

It usually takes me several passes at turning the adjuster, then driving it a bit, then re-adjusting to get it centered and "perfect".

If you are driving straight down the road and you steering wheel is not straight enough, it will definitely light up the dash and disable traction control, and cruise and a bunch of other stuff.

Aftermarket drag links might have another mechanism to adjust, but it should have some way to change the length to make the wheel straight again.

I could have done it differently but that is actually what I did to get the all of those issues corrected. This happened to me when I had the coilovers installed and the wheel was straight and it was driving straight but it was basically off one total rotation on the steering wheel. (I figured it out with the backup camera)
So just because the wheel is straight doesn’t mean the jeep thinks it straight as depending on lift height it can pull it further around.
You are correct the shaft on the steering box is keyed so you can’t micro adjust but yes I did one full rotation and reconnected to fix the problem. The pitman arm was in the right location and the drag link adjustment was even so I tried that and it worked fine. I could have adjusted the wheel one full rotation with the drag link but for some reason that would have put the Pittman arm a little off. Of course a few days later I swapped it all for PSC so I had to do it all over again. The shop should have bungied the steering wheel straight but they didn’t.
Just because the wheel is straight the steering wheel sensors may think differently.

 

[Earl 392]

That's not at all how you adjust that....

If I recall correctly, the steering shaft is keyed so that you cannot just rotate the shaft and reconnect it to the steering box.

Adjusting the length of the drag link is how you re-center the steering wheel. The stock drag link has a turnbuckle that connects the left and right side of the drag link together. loosening the clamps, and spinning the turnbuckle one way, makes the assembly longer, effectively forcing he steering wheel to the right. Turning it the other way, shortens the assembly, turning the steering wheel back to the left.

It usually takes me several passes at turning the adjuster, then driving it a bit, then re-adjusting to get it centered and "perfect".

If you are driving straight down the road and you steering wheel is not straight enough, it will definitely light up the dash and disable traction control, and cruise and a bunch of other stuff.

Aftermarket drag links might have another mechanism to adjust, but it should have some way to change the length to make the wheel straight again.

Definitely correct on this one . Pull the Jeep into the garage as straight as possible thenHave someone sit in the driver’s seat as you make adjustments to drag link (as per above ) make steering wheel centered tighten clamp go for a drive . 10 minutes job lights will go out cruse control will work again. Easy with help.

 

[Un4seen4]

once you get the wheel and sterring all alighted you may also need to reset your steering angle sensor as if its out ehough to casue the x-mas tree it will likely need to be reset

 

[Earl 392]

once you get the wheel and sterring all alighted you may also need to reset your steering angle sensor as if its out ehough to casue the x-mas tree it will likely need to be reset

Guess I got lucky, didn’t have to do that

 

[Overkill]

I could have done it differently but that is actually what I did to get the all of those issues corrected. This happened to me when I had the coilovers installed and the wheel was straight and it was driving straight but it was basically off one total rotation on the steering wheel. (I figured it out with the backup camera)
So just because the wheel is straight doesn’t mean the jeep thinks it straight as depending on lift height it can pull it further around.
Correct the shaft on the steering box is keyed so you can’t micro adjust but yes I did one full rotation and reconnected to fix the problem. The pitman arm was in the right location and the drag link adjustment was even so I tried that and it worked fine. I could have adjusted the wheel one full rotation with the drag link but for some reason that would have put the Pittman arm a little off. Of course a few days later I swapped it all for PSC so I had to do it all over again. The shop should have bungied the steering wheel straight but they didn’t.
Just because the wheel is straight the steering wheel sensors may think differently.

I haven't had a chance to encounter the wonderful clock spring on the Jeep yet, but I had an experience with it on my wife's Mini Cooper when I had to remove the front subframe. I didn't even know the clock spring existed until I put it all back together and it had weirdness like the turn signal would only cancel one way and wouldn't the other. Also had warnings on the dash. Only when I talked to a friend that knew about it did I find out about the clock spring. He said on some vehicles if you don't hold the wheel in place and let it rotate, it can destroy the clock spring and then you have to tear into column. Sounds like Jeep might be lucky like the Mini was where the spring was still ok.

 

[guruman]

I could have done it differently but that is actually what I did to get the all of those issues corrected. This happened to me when I had the coilovers installed and the wheel was straight and it was driving straight but it was basically off one total rotation on the steering wheel. (I figured it out with the backup camera)
So just because the wheel is straight doesn’t mean the jeep thinks it straight as depending on lift height it can pull it further around.
You are correct the shaft on the steering box is keyed so you can’t micro adjust but yes I did one full rotation and reconnected to fix the problem. The pitman arm was in the right location and the drag link adjustment was even so I tried that and it worked fine. I could have adjusted the wheel one full rotation with the drag link but for some reason that would have put the Pittman arm a little off. Of course a few days later I swapped it all for PSC so I had to do it all over again. The shop should have bungied the steering wheel straight but they didn’t.
Just because the wheel is straight the steering wheel sensors may think differently.

Ah, I see. So yours was a whole rotation out of whack. That's not good. You're lucky you didn't damage the clock spring and kill it.

Anytime I have the steering shaft disconnected, I always strap the steering wheel down to keep it from getting out of whack.

 

[Josh's392]

Thanks y'all. After I installed the lift. The steering wheel was maybe 80 degrees to the right. I got an alignment. Steering wheel is correct now. Goes straight while driving down the road.

 

[jeepguru]

PRO TIP if anyone installs a lift kit or steering kit themselves - run the driver's seatbelt through the steering wheel and buckle it. This won't stop the wheel from getting out of alignment, but it WILL stop it from doing a full rotation.

Dave

 

[BarneyM]

PRO TIP if anyone installs a lift kit or steering kit themselves - run the driver's seatbelt through the steering wheel and buckle it. This won't stop the wheel from getting out of alignment, but it WILL stop it from doing a full rotation.

Dave

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[jeepguru]

Works great!

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What in the 1950s diner is that?!

My techs can't lose a seatbelt.

 

[Josh's392]

Mornin y'all. Over the weekend, I installed my rough country lift kit. My abs, service 4x4 and a few other lights are on. Also unable to use cruise control. Is this common? When installing a suspension lift. I appreciate any advice or comments.

Finally had time to fix the issue. Some of yall were correct. It was the driver side speed sensor. Thanks again.