2024 -392 going in for facelift in 2 weeks

[prodriquez]

42” on 20”??? Isn’t that illegal in most states?

 

[Mallcrawler_392]

Evo is mid quality parts and very poor customer service. King shocks are great, so there’s that.

Why do you say Evo is mid quality?

 

[Bocephus]

Why do you say Evo is mid quality?

Their joints are not as great as rock Krawler and metal cloak and probably others , unless things have changed. Their arms are less beefy than others including the aforementioned two. Their coils are very soft and sag immediately. Their king shock and coil pairings for the 2.5 short arm lift I had was very poor - the shocks sat at almost full compression and bottomed out regularly. Finally, (and take fwiw) my off-road shop was very meh about the quality of some parts. Guys answering the phone can provide very little help at least circa 2019 /2020.

I’d rate Clayton, Rock Krawler and Metalcloak above evo.

Take my opinion with a grain of salt, im not the worlds expert. Fwiw, I actually really like the owner of evo and his family and crew. It’s Just that for your average lift, they seem a little lacking.

 

[prodriquez]

Their joints are not as great as rock Krawler and metal cloak and probably others , unless things have changed. Their arms are less beefy than others including the aforementioned two. Their coils are very soft and sag immediately. Their king shock and coil pairings for the 2.5 short arm lift I had was very poor - the shocks sat at almost full compression and bottomed out regularly. Finally, (and take fwiw) my off-road shop was very meh about the quality of some parts. Guys answering the phone can provide very little help at least circa 2019 /2020.

I’d rate Clayton, Rock Krawler and Metalcloak above evo.

Take my opinion with a grain of salt, im not the worlds expert. Fwiw, I actually really like the owner of evo and his family and crew. It’s Just that for your average lift, they seem a little lacking.

I laugh when I read crap like this on the internet because it looks like your shop didn’t know how to set up a coilover or check the nitrogen in a shock… so blame Evo or King because their too stupid to know their stupid... Shameful!

As for Evo’s joints, I believe they use your standard Johnny joints, which I’d take over any of the others out there.

 

[prodriquez]

I forgot to mention valve and Spring rates!!! You cannot expect Evo’s bolt-on kit to accommodate the extra 1,000+ lbs of crap we add to our jeeps. That part is on your shop and it’s up to them to determine/advise you what spring rates would be best for your setup and particular use case.

 

[Bocephus]

I laugh when I read crap like this on the internet because it looks like your shop didn’t know how to set up a coilover or check the nitrogen in a shock… so blame Evo or King because their too stupid to know their stupid... Shameful!

As for Evo’s joints, I believe they use your standard Johnny joints, which I’d take over any of the others out there.

Lots of wrong assumptions there. Enjoy your jeep, evo and Johnny Joints. I stand by my points.

 

[prodriquez]

 

[Bocephus]

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Looking good!

 

[Huckle Monster]

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Be careful of that mounting position for the antenna (on the tire carrier). That is for a flag mount, at least that was what I was told. I had my CB antenna mounted there and ran into some weird issues and yes the AWR was way off. Relocated and reception was much better.

Of course could be different for other bands.

 

[guruman]

Be careful of that mounting position for the antenna (on the tire carrier). That is for a flag mount, at least that was what I was told. I had my CB antenna mounted there and ran into some weird issues and yes the AWR was way off. Relocated and reception was much better.

Of course could be different for other bands.

Thanks.... that one is GMRS, and other than I had to source a mount with an extra long stud to get through that hole, I've not had any issues with it. I didn't like some of the other mounting options (cowl, bumper or roof mounts) so I wanted to keep it here out of the way. I swap in a stubby antenna when I'm not on an Offroad excursion, so it's really low-key and out of the way, and still performs better than an handheld GMRS setup.

 

[Ct_Formula]

Thanks.... that one is GMRS, and other than I had to source a mount with an extra long stud to get through that hole, I've not had any issues with it. I didn't like some of the other mounting options (cowl, bumper or roof mounts) so I wanted to keep it here out of the way. I swap in a stubby antenna when I'm not on an Offroad excursion, so it's really low-key and out of the way, and still performs better than an handheld GMRS setup.

Which mount and antenna did you go with? I've been wracking my fingers looking for one that fit there.

 

[ParadigmDawg]

I am a big fan of staying as low as possible and running 38-40s.

My Jeep is a basic, moderate build and it just plain works well.

3.5" lift, fender chop, high clearance fender liners and 40s.

 

[guruman]

Which mount and antenna did you go with? I've been wracking my fingers looking for one that fit there.

This mount: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007JR3UOK/

Stubby for when range is not an issue: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08429ZT37/

Longer antenna for the backcountry: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WNXW7TO/

 

[Smess]

1. EVO KING double throwdown 4.5 lift
2. KMC grenade 20s on 42s NITTO
3. PSC big bore steering box / steering dampener
4. UB 60 axles. 8 lug

Can anyone give any pros and cons on Anything they have done at this level. Let me know how it rides and handles on / Offroad. Any other suggestions or good add ons to do at the same time. If anyone has bad things to say about any of these upgrades let me know. Got a lot I am investing. Now is the time to make changes.

If you are going to destroy the pedigree of a top shelf Jeep why are you using a product that for a lack of better words is no name. If you don't care about re-sale value, which to me you are improving the Jeep but do not use Evo.

Use Mopar or AEV, Aev is not only recognized but they do roll testing and they sell the parts that will help you get the Jeep back to driving decent again. go up 4.5 inches and back rolls the axle which does what? correct changes the castor. What happens when we reduce castor? no re-coil in the steering. What happens when we increase castor out of spec? IN A Jk we created death wobble.

But you don't have to worry about any of that because AEV geometry correction is going to fix that.

AEV was the only company in the history of auto manufacturing that has been able to have their products installed on the assembly line. can you say that about EVO?

Not wasting any more breath on this topic.- UB 8LUG DO THEY MAKE 5? NITTO- YIKES

 

[Smess]

I am a big fan of staying as low as possible and running 38-40s.

My Jeep is a basic, moderate build and it just plain works well.

3.5" lift, fender chop, high clearance fender liners and 40s.

LISTEN TO THIS GUY, AEV 3.5 and a 40 will probably work. I have a Gladiator diesel with fender chop, Mopar lift and 39.5 BF KM3-s and I am not a huge BF fan but the KM3 is nice. I disposed of the Nitro 40's when I bought it, Nittos are not allowed on my vehicles but you get free unlimited lifetime koolaid even if you don't own the product. they are hoping you get addicted to the ingredient they use like chic filet, he is hands down the most successfulmpoisoner in the World. I don't do the free thing as you get what you pay for in life.

 

[Smess]

I've been there, and I've seen a dozen guys online go through this same thing.

Bottom line: Mods at this level make the Jeep nearly a dedicated trail rig, IMHO. No matter what marketing wank a company used, that much lift, and that much tire will affect the road manners negatively.

The 392 rolls out of the factory with a good balance of off-roadability and road manners. There are some things you can do to improve either, but not much you can do to improve both. After a bit, making one better, makes the other worse.

I guess what I'm saying is if you want it to use mainly on the road, then maybe all of that is too much. But, if you plan to wheel the piss out of it all the time, then all of that makes sense. If you need it to be good at both, maybe less lift and 37/38 tires, go to the tons if you think you'll be breaking the stockers. It'll still out wheel 98% of the stuff on the trail, and be well behaved on the road.

My last Jeep was built to the hilt, and became such an Offroad monster, that it was not fun to drive on the road anymore... getting in and out was a hassle, it was too tall to easily put the top up and down... For the last 5 years or so, it barely got used 4k miles a year max. By comparison, my 20a 392 now has 10k miles on it, and I've only had it since June.

As always, I'm just some random dude on the internet... you do you, friend.

Good luck.

Listen to this guy also, two guys in one thread, three with me.

 

[3TV]

I think Brentfield flew the coop. We haven't heard from him in 14 months. It would be nice to know what he did with his 392, if anything.

 

[EBYCREEK]

I would plan on adding the Atlas Transfer Case in the near future. I made it to 11,000 miles with numerous problems. I've had the SERV 4WD light with binding. I had the front clutches get hot and the front wheels quit pulling. The Atlas was the best mod I have done.